Comment on xkcd #2933: Elementary Physics Paths

Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s not crazy when you think they are both trying to model the same universe.

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  • Liz@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    When you section off a small part of the universe and try to model it, there’s little reason your model should look like a model for a completely different small part of the universe. Not unless they share fundamental characteristics that you’re trying to model. The math that describes permanent deformation looks nothing like fluid dynamics.

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    • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They are both describing the same particles.

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      • Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        They are both describing the same particles.

        Water and ice are made up the same particles and molecules yet the mathematical to define the effect of force/pressure is very different - plastic deformation vs fluid dynamics as the example given above

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      • Liz@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I mean in the case of the comic, yeah the reason for the behavior actually is tied to pretty much the same principles, but the generalized statement you made isn’t, well, generalizable.

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    • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Recursive universe theory strikes again.

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  • Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Neither of them is trying to model the universe (that is the purview of cosmology). We are trying to model very particular phenomenon happening in the universe and there is no reason to expect them to modeled using the mathematical structure. The fact that they are is very fascinating.

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