Comment on Biden really, really doesn’t want China to flood the US with cheap EVs

• AProfessional@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Thats great for GM and Ford execs. It just means Americans can’t afford cars.

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  • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Sure. And - ya know - not funneling money into a totalitarian regime.

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    • sushibowl@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s not so much about where it goes, more so the fact that it doesn’t stay in America. This is about saving the American auto industry. Whether it’s for the jobs that would be lost or the profits of the shareholders.

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      • Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That’s a bingo.

        The idea that “they” don’t want the American public driving EVs is ridiculous.

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The military will just order a million new pickup trucks as light utility vehicles.

        And the Answer to jobs isn’t more punishment.

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  • ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    So what about Tesla, Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, and all the rest? You say we can’t afford cars yet 15 million new cars are sold every year here. New cars have never been something that just anyone can buy which is why the used market is so much larger.

    Selling Chinese EVs here below cost isn’t going to improve anything. It’s just going to put a bunch of competitors out of business and drive wages even further down.

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    • AProfessional@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The cost of cars has not scaled with incomes. EVs are also much cheaper to manufacture yet because of lack of competition they only sell luxury cars. Nissan admittedly tried but I think that was just too early to market with a mediocre product.

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      • ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The added price is likely partially due to the development costs for these companies retooling their factories and doing R&D to develop these new platforms in a company that has been building ICE vehicles for the past 50-100 years. Luxury vehicles bring a markup that helps to offset these costs until these vehicles become more ubiquitous, parts are easier to source, and prices come down. You can’t compare the cost of a brand new design to something like the Camry which had the general design ironed out 40+ years ago.

        If you look at sales numbers, the Model 3 is outselling the cheap alternatives like the Leaf and Bolt 20:1, so it seems like many people are willingly choosing to pay more rather than buy the econobox option. The average sale price for a (any) new vehicle is around $50k currently, and there are a multitude of options in that price range.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If you want everyone to switch to EVs you need some that are cost competitive with gas vehicles.

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