Which modern Fallout game would you suggest for someone who loved the first 2 and generally prefers classic (and modern classic style) RPGs and deep stories?
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all-knight-party@kbin.run 4 months ago
It just depends what you go into it looking for. If you want a deep RPG you won't get it, and I found the story enjoyable, but just all right, but not horrible or anything. I do also really enjoy the gameplay.
The shooting won't change the world, but it is enjoyable, and I really like the scavenging and modification of weapons and armor, and as a motivation for exploration it's great.
chazwhiz@lemmy.world 4 months ago
all-knight-party@kbin.run 4 months ago
If by modern you mean Fallout 3 and beyond, then absolutely New Vegas and its DLCs. You will not get anything of a deep story from any of the other offerings except maybe Fallout 4's Far Harbor, but that comes too little too late if you might not tolerate Fallout 4's flaws to get there.
New Vegas doesn't play very well in terms of combat, hello Gamebryo engine, but it has a complex story with many possible directions and endings, and many factions that are much more than black and white. Your character's own dialogue is also far better written compared to Bethesda's offerings and has a lot more agency in the world. I think you will find enough to enjoy there as long as you can get past the hump of some middling (even for its time) shooting.
A lot of that can be owed to the writing staff similarities between the original Fallouts and New Vegas, Obsidian's strong point.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Vegas, easily.
tal@lemmy.today 4 months ago
loved the first 2
Like, the isometric games? Not the 3D ones?
I’d consider Wasteland 2 and 3 as being similar to Fallout and Fallout 2. Fallout was inspired by Wasteland.
But l’d seriously consider trying the 3D Fallout games. I think that the series did a pretty good job of making the jump to 3D.
chazwhiz@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Correct, and I’m familiar with the Wasteland games and they’re great. I was asking about the 3D games specifically. I remember starting Fallout 3 back on my 360 years ago and just not caring for it. I’ve always wondered if I should give another one a go.
FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
That part about weapons and armour rang true for me as well. I spent a lot of time just wandering the commonwealth looking for junk to upgrade with and levelling my gunsmith up as a result. I think this is the most I’ve really explored in a game. Personally I didn’t really go in looking for anything so I was pleasantly surprised. But I definitely can see how say, someone going in for full role playing immersion from a game wouldn’t feel quite the same.
all-knight-party@kbin.run 4 months ago
I think that's a lot of what happened back when it released. The most recent Fallout game before then was Fallout New Vegas, and when it comes to a narratively deep RPG that's almost an unfair fight compared to anything Bethesda has put out, so of course Fallout 4 fell very short of that mark.
But it does have successes in other areas. For the first time in, shit, any Bethesda game ever I found the animations and feedback of moment to moment combat actually enjoyable, the junk gathering and upgrading is an extremely addictive loop, and the game does look genuinely pretty and immersive, though the character animations still let it down.
I liked it to the tune of multiple hundreds of hours, myself.
tal@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I believe that the animation engine in Fallout 4 is capped at something like 30 or maybe 60 fps, can’t tween. When I’m running on my 165 Hz monitor, Fallout 4 animation definitely feels slightly jerky. Starfield doesn’t have this issue, so somewhere along the line, they upgraded the engine.
all-knight-party@kbin.run 4 months ago
Funnily enough, the game is basically stuck at 60 FPS for me, even though I have a 144hz monitor. Everything I look up says the game engine wasn't configured to go past that and anything higher requires mods and such for it to be supported. I'm a relatively modest gamer who plays a lot of Switch, so as long as it's consistent I don't mind, I just keep it at 60.
Glad to know Starfield can go higher, but my computer isn't amazing so newer games just don't stay consistent above 60, I just cap Starfield at 60 as well.