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CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 6 months agoAm I the only one who finds this so weird when we talk about LLMs? If someone makes a bot that resembles some specific person, that person’s rights aren’t really violated, and since they’re all fictional content, it is very hard to break actual laws through its content. At that point we would have to also ban people’s weird fan fiction, no?
Not arguing about whatever they want or don’t want on their platform, but the legal & alleged moral questions / arguments always weird me out a bit, because there’s no one actually getting hurt in any sort of way by weirdos having weird chats with computers.
I could see some people making the argument that it could be considered defamatory especially in cases where it is being peddled as real. Politicians might even try to link it in with revenge porn or other non-consensual pornography laws.
It would sure get messy in a hurry though. Imagine someone trying to make lewd photos of Laura Croft’s Tomb Raider for example and accidentally generating images resembling Alicia Vikander or Angelina Jolie from the Tomb Raider movie.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 months ago
Hard sell overall imo. But in any sort of malicious case we should punish the people behind it, not the software used to make it.
8ender@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s tough though. Do you punish “the artist” or the person who commissioned them? Or both?
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 months ago
What? We're talking about LLM created content, so there's no artist or person commissioning anything. But if you're asking for the hypothetical case of someone commissioning blackmail material at an artist (without telling them the purpose), then obviously the person who ends up doing the blackmail. I don't see the how the artist would've made themselves liable unless it was very obvious that it was intended to be used for illegal purposes.
8ender@lemmy.world 5 months ago
By artist I mean the LLM. Do you punish the LLM (or company running it) for generating it, or the person who asked it to?
CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 6 months ago
I feel like it’s going to be a challenge to find a definition of malicious most people agree on.
Someone might think it’s fine to make nudes of Captain Marvel for example because she’s a character. They don’t really care about the Brie Larson aspect.
It gets muddy real quick
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 months ago
I personally don't see that much of an issue of people making "nudes" of others since they're fake anyway. I see an issue when they're used for things like bullying, blackmail, etc. That is technically already illegal, just not well enforced for any sort of digital topic and hasn't been for over a couple of decades now. Hence why I find the attention the LLM stuff gets exceptionally hypocritical and overblown, because non of them really cared when someone simply got cyberbullied, or blackmailed through classically edited images - let alone screamed for the outlawing of editing software or social media.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
How about we instead eliminate the people who think it’s wrong or otherwise demeaning to have publicly available of yourself nude. I can’t imagine these people have any redeeming qualities anyway. And by eliminate, I mean hunt them with a crossbow.