Comment on Amazon Says It Doesn't 'Employ' Drivers, But Records Show It Hired Firms to Prevent Them From Unionizing

dunning_cougar@waveform.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• krische@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Independent contractors. They’re like employed in almost every way except the legal way.

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  • DrZoidberg@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve had Amazon packages delivered by some dude wearing basketball shorts and a t-shirt driving a random Toyota Corolla. It’s like they use Uber for delivery.

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    • buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Anything to keep the union out

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    • Nhickz@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thats an amazon flex driver , its like a much more strict uber eats , they only hire so many flex drivers , but it works similar to uber , pick your hours , they normaly have a route between 1-3 hours , around 25-100 packages , used to be more , but they lowered it . Amazon has delivery service providers for the main vans , they are “self made companies” . Amazon provides the initial cash to start them , normaly charges them for the vans , and has nearly all controle over them . They live in a legal gray area , most have few enough “employees” to skirt large business laws .

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    • Nommer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They do. I have a friend that makes some side cash delivering for them in his personal vehicle.

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  • _finger_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Then it should be even easier to unionize

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    • irotsoma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Can’t unionize a workplace when you’re the owner and only employee. That’s how the law treats “independent contractors”.

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      • Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I kinda don’t like how unions are a legal thing… Why are they not just a a private club, where people collectively agree to not take shit conditions anymore? Why can’t all independent contractors go on strike tomorrow?

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      • nsfw_alt_2023@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        National Taxi Workers’ Alliance says hello

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      • VindictiveJudge@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Counter their bullshit with your own. “We’re not a union, we’re a guild.”

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  • Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Usually not independent contractors. Amazon has contracts with other regional companies to do local deliveries and drivers are employees of these smaller companies.

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