Comment on TikTok sues the US government over ban

• Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The fact that the company that manages TikTok is insisting on maintaining the power structure that allows for influence by the CCP makes that claim incredibly suspicious.

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh no, should we ban Facebook because the US government can subpoena them for information!?!

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    • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      First, that’s materially different. Second, yes; I think Facebook giving the government our information without a fight is bad. What, did you think I would suddenly like the dissolution of our privacy was suddenly good because it was an American company?

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh that’s different than when the Chinese government serves a subpoena?

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• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  According to former head engineer for US locations of TikTok, their services are centralized in China to the extent that it probably cannot even run off the US locations alone, and the Chinese owners ByteDance had complete access to everything on the platform including user data and if you believe security experts: your photo library, text message history, contacts list, and information of nearby wireless devices that you’ve so much as passed by. Also, they’re a military partner in China.

  That’s not a US Corporation in any way, shape, or form. That is espionage. The fact that they announced they won’t sell shows that they were never a business operating for profit, it was always about control.

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m sure you can link these security experts. Since that would be classed as malware and the industry standard is to write public reports on that stuff.

    And saying they aren’t like a US corporation because they do some military contracting is fucking hilarious.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We were talking about what TikTok has to do with China, as you seemed to not know how, so you finding their direct obvious ties to China “fucking hilarious” is telling of your intentions.

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No that’s ByteDance’s direct ties. TikTok would be indirect. My intention is to get to the bottom of this but it’s constantly just unsourced accusations and conflations. Not to mention excuse after excuse for why we can’t just pass an American GDPR. Instead we have to instigate Red Scare 2.0 which is totally not sus.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Would it be classified as malware? I think people hand over permissions on their smartphone for most or all of those things on a daily basis without a second thought.

      The report on the vast extent of data obtained by TikTok was published by an Australian firm called “Internet 2.0” but it’s pay to view. Seems pretty substantial, though, since it hasn’t been debunked in the 2 years since it was published.

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lmao. They’re trying to sell a product. They admit on their blog that the reason their score is so high is the trackers. Which are all from other social media companies and an advertiser. Oh and they counted Google Crashlytics.

        TIL I learned good app maintenance is considered a red flag.

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