Comment on Well...that was anticlimactic

• Puppy@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Because the informations are hearsays from one man that may or may not be credible.

  Basically it's a premium "trust me bro"

  For some it's enough, for the majority it's just another disappointing nothingburger

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  • Scew@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, pics or it didn’t happen… oh wait, we can literally generate the pics now… shit. Guess we’re out here in the wild west these days…

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  • Nabs@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You didnt read my comment.

    If the man “posted pics” he’d be risking his freedom and families future.

    He was found credible by not only his lawyers but the inspector general so much so that his complaint was levelied to congress.

    thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-fou…

    This is the site that ran the original article prior to in televised interview.

    This is part 1 of the fact checking / vetting they did on the whistleblower.

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Fact checked” by some crackpot website lmao

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  • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    for me it’s a spunk sandwich

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• Nabs@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-a-with-debrief-co-fou…

  This is the site that ran the original article prior to in televised interview.

  This is part 1 of the fact checking / vetting they did on the whistleblower.

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  • Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So that says nothing about the information itself but rather just goes on about credentials and employment, with a tidbit about not leaking classified information. It does not provide any justification as to why this person’s claims should be believed rather than just “he worked there”.

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    • Nabs@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It does, the IG that reviewed his case found it to be “urgent and credible” enough to be forwarded to congress.

      Again, the man can’t & shouldnt, go full snowden where he just dumps his load and defects to Russia, forsaking his or his family’s future.

      So that leaves us in the position of, hey, this guy has a record of credibility and others whove reviewed what he has say its credible and urgent.

      It is up to congress to investigate and then declassify.

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      • Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The information doesn’t have to be evidence of aliens existing to be “urgent and credible”, the statement says “The ICIG found Mr. Grusch’s assertion that information was inappropriately concealed from Congress to be urgent and credible in response to the filed disclosure.” which could mean it can just be about the organizational structure is the agencies, for example.

        And I wasn’t going to mention it but this is the second time you bring up Snowden, who neither “[dumped] his load” nor “defected to Russia”. He released information that the US government was illegally spying on its own citizens as well as its allies in a much broader way than anyone outside imagined. He was then stuck at an airport in Russia because the US government revoked his passport during a flight that landed there. He has repeatedly asked for a fair, public trial instead of being put in a dark box at Guantanamo and received no agreement of that from the US government so he’s stayed in one of the only places where he won’t be extradited to a country that intends to make him disappear. Since then, he’s criticized authoritarianism and governmental overreach while living in one of the most brutal dictatorships on earth, which takes more balls than either of us have.

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  • mamaMiata@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks for the link. I was more interested in the original article here that focused on what exactly was revealed.

    I’m skeptical with the fact that non-human made artifacts and entire crafts were recovered, especially since no one except extremely secret organizations currently have these materials.

    The fact that a well respected member of the intelligence community backed by other well respected members has made come out with these statements does raise eyebrows.

    With all that said, the debrief does seem like a credible source of information, and I’m curious to see what this evolves into if other active members of the intelligence community continue to whistleblow on alleged illegal activity.

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  • mamaMiata@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks for the link. I was more interested in the original article here that focused on what exactly was revealed.

    I’m skeptical with the fact that non-human made artifacts and entire crafts were recovered, especially since no one except extremely secret organizations currently have these materials.

    The fact that a well respected member of the intelligence community backed by other well respected members has made come out with these statements does raise eyebrows.

    With all that said, the debrief does seem like a credible source of information, and I’m curious to see what this evolves into if other active members of the intelligence community continue to whistleblow on alleged illegal activity.

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