Comment on Ukraine unveils AI-generated foreign ministry spokesperson

dukethorion@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You realize we haven’t given them actual money, right?

  And I doubt they are paying OpenAI with tanks.

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  • butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No he doesn’t realize that, the Foxosphere hasn’t adopted that position yet.

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  • Mazoku@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You realize military equipment costs the United States actual money, right?

    And I doubt the US government is paying military contractors out of their own pockets.

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    • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We are sending them old equipment, and spending the “money” on replacing that old equipment with new equipment.

      In fact, it’s great for the US. Get rid of old stuff, get new stuff in its place, create jobs and stimulate the economy in the process. It’s win win win.

      Apart from the fact that the US spends way too fucking much on military, but it was going to happen regardless

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      • Mazoku@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        According to this article, of the 61 BILLION dollars sent to Ukraine in the latest aid package, only 7 billion is being put back into our own production. That’s still a major deficit that has to come from someplace.

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  • dukethorion@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Right pocket left pocket.

    If you need a tank, and you get one for free, you can spend your tank money on something else.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Imagine pretending you don’t understand the value of PR and propaganda in a war.

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      • dukethorion@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Imagine pretending you don’t understand that modern wars funded by the US are shell games in which typically nobody, except for defense contractors and politicians, benefit.

        Did we really help the good people of Iraq? I bet their answer is a resounding No.

        How about Afghanistan? I bet our CIA made a pretty penny off captured opium fields, but the Taliban is again in charge, nothing changed except hidden bank account balances.

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    • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you need a tank, and have no money for a tank, you don’t magically get “tank money” when someone gives you a free tank…

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You realize we haven’t given them actual money, right?

    US has provided money, not just equipment, to Ukraine

    Between January 2022 and January 2023, the U.S. committed more than $26 billion to Ukraine in financial assistance, according to data compiled by the Ukraine Support Tracker at the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German think tank. That’s about a third of the roughly $77 billion in total aid noted by Kiel, including humanitarian and military assistance, pledged by the U.S. government. The numbers represent money promised, not entirely distributed.

    Another tally from the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget places the total amount of aid approved by Congress in 2022 for supporting the Ukrainian government and allies at about $113 billion. That includes about $27 billion in economic support funds, $7.9 billion for international disaster assistance and $6.6 billion to support and relocate refugees.

    Graham noted that the war has wrecked Ukraine’s economy and that U.S. assistance has helped keep the government functioning.

    The U.S. Agency for International Development has in releases and a report to Congress outlined how budgetary support to the Ukrainian government has been used. Some of the funding has been spent, for example, on social assistance payments and salaries for health care workers, first responders and educators. It also helps cover pensions and support Ukrainians displaced by the war.

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