Comment on Google Kneecaps Loads Of Very Big Websites After SEO Change

capt_wolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Because they are making so that we get less results that are just cheating the system to show up at the top?

  SEO is a bastardization of a useful tool, solely meant to game the system artificially

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    SEO is only feasible in the first place because we have one dominant search engine instead of a bunch of equally-prominent ones with different algorithms that would need to be optimized for differently (and maybe even mutually-exclusively).

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    • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Copy paste.

      There are a ton of them, the problem is none of them are as good as google.

      I hear there are good pay ones, though I have never tried one.

      I can usually find what I need on google pretty damn quick, although I have seen the end page more than once

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      • Undaunted@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I found search results surprisingly bad when I had to use is on another computer. I use Kagi (and yes it costs money but I rather pay that than pay with my data) which gives me way more accurate results. Google might have been the best search engine until a few years ago but from my experience it is not anymore.

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    • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This is not in any way true.

      SEO is an almost impossible to solve problem because sites know any search engine exists.

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  • capt_wolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Well, yes, but in a broader sense, they have way too much of a stake in the control of global communications altogether. Even just a hiccup on their servers or slight change to their system has a global impact, as obviously evidenced here. The world is dengerously reliant on a centralized private company for daily functioning.

    Such a powerful entity shouldn’t be controlled by private parties and needs to be governed in a way that the benefit of the people is kept paramount.

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    • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      So you are wanting to do what here exactly?

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      • capt_wolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Not really anything to do but draw attention to it… It’s not like we have an effective globally governing body to oversee something like this objectively.

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  • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because they are making so that we get less results that are just cheating the system to show up at the top?

    No, because they are failing to hide low quality search results. Something the would invest more money in if an alternative search engine existed.

    Imagine if you could search for a GPU and get a a proper review of it instead of a million websites that post inaccurate specifications which are categorically worse than just looking up the specs on the official manufacturer’s website? I think we would live in that world if there was competition. Google Search would be better if it had competition.

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    • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What websites do you think shouldn’t be allowed to exist here?

      You find what you search for, shitty companies game the system with SEO because they are shitty and it’s the only way for them to get access.

      Google is trying to make that harder for them to do.

      Why is them making SEO harder a bad thing?

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  • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If there were more search systems/engines there would be a wider variety of ways search results are optimized. Meaning SEO would have a greater level of diminishing returns. Having a single player creates a single point of weakness in search.

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    • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There are a ton of them, the problem is none of them are as good as google.

      I hear there are good pay ones, though I have never tried one.

      I can usually find what I need on google pretty damn quick, although I have seen the end page more than once

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      • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I can usually find what I need on google pretty damn quick

        It depends what you’re searching for. Some things are very hard to find that used to be easy.

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  • Nyfure@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    to be fair, they specifically target the way google ranks these websites. If google would rank them with less impact of what the website "bastardizes", this could be generally less of an issue in the first place.

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    • NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s what they’re doing with this AFAICT

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• conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Because they down ranked sites blatantly shoveling shit for the sole purpose of gaming their algorithm?

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  • kent_eh@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    sites blatantly shoveling shit for the sole purpose of gaming their algorithm

    That’s the definition of SEO right there.

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