Comment on Google lays off hundreds of 'Core' employees, moves some positions to India and Mexico

• fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Companies like google pressuring governments in India and Mexico to crack down on unions and work protections there is what it looks like for them and limitations on immigration (and the freedoms of those do immigrate).

  Free market of labor is never the real source of downward market pressure, IMHO. Its the veryil intentional policies ment to keep labor desperate.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, Google is to blame for low salaries in India.

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• dumpsterlid@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You know how most of the software engineers in India feel? Like they are even more micromanaged, overworked and deprived of agency in the work place than US tech workers.

  I want software engineers and India and Mexico to earn a living wage just as much as I want software engineers living in my city to earn a living wage and have a workplace that treats them with decency (and doesn’t try to treat humans like robots).

  I am sure most Indians and Mexican software engineers feel that way about software engineers from other countries too.

  The only zero sum games here is between all of us and the ruling class and if you don’t see that now I hope one day in the future that thought will find you with an open mind.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know how they feel because I work with them daily. They feel blessed because they earn sometimes 10 times more than their parents for work much less hard, in particular those coming from farming families. They are not earning a “living wage”, they are earning a “live almost in luxury” wage, 20 to 30 lakh a year, which is still 10 times less than silicon valley. They work in a nice office with Air Conditioning, or directly from home if they want.

    That being said, software engineers EVERYWHERE are earning “a living wage” at least. We are way overpaid, in fact, compared to social workers or teachers. A company with hundreds of thousands of employees relocating some positions to other countries is just mundane.

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    • dumpsterlid@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That being said, software engineers EVERYWHERE are earning “a living wage” at least. We are way overpaid, in fact, compared to social workers or teachers. A company with hundreds of thousands of employees relocating some positions to other countries is just mundane.

      Who said violence and class warfare can’t be mundane in practice?

      We are way overpaid

      No y’all aren’t, the problem is rather that everybody else is way underpaid

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s the same thing, I explicitly compared it to other people. It’s relative.

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