Dude, I was there for when Vine was born and for when it died, and Vine didn’t even getpicked up for mass disinformation, and y’know what? Life moved on.
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OftenWrong@startrek.website 6 months agoOf course you do. You’re all just the old man yelling at cloud meme and it’s honestly sad.
kerrigan778@lemmy.world 6 months ago
OftenWrong@startrek.website 6 months ago
I think it’s sad that you’re all just ok with this kind of blatant government overreach to protect corporate pockets tbh. You just go along with the disinformation thing without an ounce of critical thought because you didn’t like the app lol. I guess I just expected better of this community but I was wrong. I think lemmy just got the reddit boomers that are in denial about being boomers. It seems like it’s just an alternative retirement site to facebook for y’all. So have fun with that I guess.
Korne127@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Am I a Reddit boomer when I’m 21 and like (some) Tiktok-esque kind of content?
I’ve never used TikTok, but not because I don’t get the idea of using audio as meme template or because I don’t like short videos. But just because that specific platform itself is so vile.
Not just talking about funding the Chinese government, TikTok e.g. reduces reach of neurodivergent people. Even worse, it censors information against China‘s authoritarianism and much more.Why can’t I be happy that this awful platform loses reach? The content itself will be kept, there are enough copycats.
Also, Lemmy is full of people that stopped using Reddit for ethical reasons. So it’s not surprising many are against TikTok as well tbh.
OftenWrong@startrek.website 6 months ago
Yeah, definitely a boomer in vibes if not in age. Sorry. Everything you said is basically wrong. You’re just repeating what others have said without putting a single bit of effort into confirming anything but your own bias.
scottywh@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Which corporation’s profits do you think banning TikTok is intended to protect?
Also, “boomer” is a specific group of people and applying that term to everyone who doesn’t agree with you makes it pretty damn silly and meaningless.
SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
YouTube and Instagram have features that are in direct competition with TikTok. YouTube has even been more aggressive in promoting themselves as the TikTok alternative. On top of that the US has an incentive to keep them (Google and Meta) happy; since the US routinely spies on its own citizens through these companies.
OftenWrong@startrek.website 6 months ago
One of the guys that wrote the bill invests heavily in meta and invested even more in March after putting forward the new bill that recently passed to ban it… But I’m sure that’s TOTALLY just a coincidence lmao. Mike McCaul.
daltotron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean they’re literally just the guys who read about like, say, 4chan being bad, right, but then never actually use the site itself to see. I mean, yeah, if you go on /pol/ or /r9k/, and then scroll around for like 5 minutes, you can find some content that’s going to reinforce your bias that the site is kind of an ontologically evil fascist hellscape, but if you go on /mu/ it’s gonna be no more toxic than basically any other forum you could go on. It’s just people thoughtlessly parroting the narratives that they’ve heard from other people.
I don’t like tiktok, I don’t like lemmy, I kind of hate social media even though it’s like infested my life because I have no self control, but I’m not gonna be like. This is such an epic pog moment! I’m so pegged outta my gourd! when it gets banned. Because I’ve used it, thoroughly, not just first glance, and I actually understand the pros and cons of the platform. These guys don’t have that, they only have like, the white stale wonderbread and wood chips of social media usage, they only have reddit, and even more libbed up privacy reddit, i.e. the most obvious and in your face social media platforms of all time that give you (ostensibly, in practice, it’s the opposite) a very high amount of control over what they’re seeing. Of course they hate tiktok. On top of the brainrot privacy concerns they all probably have, they’re gonna discard it on the basis that they don’t have the self-control to use it’s platform, and project that onto everyone else. It’s like a puritan hating coffee, or cocaine, without understanding that it’s a great morning drink, or without understanding that it makes pro wrestling promos wayyyyy fucking better.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
if you go on /mu/ it’s gonna be no more toxic than basically any other forum you could go on.
I used to go on /mu/, and yes, it’s unbelievably toxic. I’m glad I don’t use 4chan anymore.
And this was long before all the QAnon shit happened.
MurphysPaw@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Wow people get so upset when you take away their soft core child porn.
SVcross@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You really live up to your username.
OftenWrong@startrek.website 6 months ago
Nah. I was wrong to come here though. Lemmy isn’t the next step forward. It’s the retirement site for people that got mad at reddit lmao.
SVcross@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean, you are disagreeing (even mocking), but not providing any argument. What did you expect?
Railing5132@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Oh, eat a Hello Kitty lunchbox full of dicks. There’s plenty of reasons to hate on TikTok (and Facebook, insta, YouTube, ad-infinitum/ad-nauseum). They’re a damn cancer on society.
OftenWrong@startrek.website 6 months ago
Yet you celebrate when the government illegally passes legislation targeting only one company to the benefit of meta and YouTube lmao. Hypocrit.
Railing5132@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Uhhh, dude - it’s not illegal. As others have mentioned, it’s a foreign (hostile) actor contributing to election interference efforts in violation of established law. It is essentially enforcing another law that’s already on place!
The complication with fb et al is that as US companies, there are other laws that protect their actions (and I’m not going to minimize the effects of powerful lobbyists).
SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
I’d love to see any evidence of TikTok acting on behalf of any country (especially China) as a hostile actor, or even any evidence of legitimate election interference. If anything banning TikTok is a significantly more hostile response from the US since it silences another forum for free speech.
Social media is a cancer, but this ban is such obvious propaganda. The only reason TikTok was banned because the US government doesn’t have free reign to spy on its users like it does with Facebook, YouTube, Meta, etc.
If the US government truly cared about social media and it’s affects they would be regulating all of it. Instead they’re trying to ban TikTok while screaming their heads off about China every chance they get. And that’s before mentioning the extremely shady way they passed this; attaching it as a rider through a government ‘aid’ bill.
kava@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I find it amusing how people talk about things they read second hand without understanding.
The nominal reason they are banning TikTok is because of the data collection. Nothing to do with election security, but national security. The real reason is that they want to lock down the digital information space in preparation for WW3. TikTok is harder to control and there’s a lot of anti-government messaging on it.
It’s sort of like the Voter ID laws in GOP states. They pass laws for “election security” by making it so you need an ID to vote. The nominal reason is so that they prevent election fraud. The real reason is they’ve done statistical analysis and that law reduces black votes by a couple percent, and blacks tend to vote Democrat.
The real reason in both cases would be unconstitutional, so they come up with another.
And the mass of idiots online cheer on the deterioration of whatever legitimacy was left in American democratic institutions.
Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So we’ll be taking care of those other companies any day now, right?
atrielienz@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I wish.
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So are places like Reddit and Lemmy but here you are.
hexabs@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Are you being intentionally daft? You realise there is no algorithm behind Lemmy, right? You aren’t being shoved controversial polarizing content subliminally here.
The worst of Lemmy is a certain instance… That I have never heard from after defederation.
theterrasque@infosec.pub 6 months ago
Of course there is. Even “sort by newest” is an algorithm, and the default view is more complicated than that.
Neither are you on TikTok, unless you actively go looking for it
adriator@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Yeah, defederating from Beehaw was definitely a great decision. I’m so glad I don’t have to see those guys’ posts anymore.
Woozythebear@lemmy.world 6 months ago
No just tons of posts cheering on genocide and pushing nazi propaganda.
kellyaster@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’re comparing assholes oranges