The competition for youtube is peertube, not another centralized platform.
It just needs content.
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woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 months agoI don’t think they will because the competition is too incompetent. I give you two examples:
I’m a subscriber of Nebula, a paid streaming service where educational YouTubers get a better cut and users don’t get ads. Those creators almost always fail to promote their Nebula uploads. “Hey guys, new video.” And they link to YouTube only. Also they leave their Patreon shout-outs in which is not what I’m paying money for. YouTube with Sponsor Block just is the better experience at this point and I just keep paying for Nebula because I hope it’ll get better and I like its idea.
Second example: I try to watch live streaming on the websites of the broadcaster or so. And more often than not it’s a shit show: I can’t properly pause the streams because they don’t support time shifting and bitrate adjustments are also not as smooth as YouTube.
It’s 2024 and internet video is over two decades old at this point and yet almost nobody else manages to get their shit together. Companies like Netflix have good tech but their business is completely different, so those compete with YouTube at best tangentially.
sandman@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The competition for youtube is peertube, not another centralized platform.
I gave two examples. I was not making a statement in favor of centralized platforms.
Also PeerTube tech is leagues behind YouTube tech.
It just needs content.
So replace “Nebula” in my first example with “PeerTube”. Works just the same when video creators post to both and just keep promoting the YouTube one.
sandman@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
What? Nebula is a paid streaming service.
Peertube is free.
Grangle1@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Unfortunately, the free, decentralized nature of FreeTube actually makes it more difficult to be a legitimate YouTube successor. The main reason: monetization. Most of the big creators people watch on YouTube don’t just do their videos as a hobby, it’s a job where they make their living. Some of the biggest will make enough in stream donations or Patron pledges to not have to worry about ads or sponsorships, but there’s a huge “middle class” of content creators, you could call it, who live video ad check to video ad check with Patreon or stream donations being supplemental to the ad revenue. Drop that ad money, and those creators will have to either figure out how to quickly multiply their income from other sources or there would be an extremely sharp drop in both quantity and quality of videos. Expect a ton of much-beloved channels to die in the process. To be any sort of competitor at all while retaining its free, decentralized nature, you would need to have many, many times more instances than exist now, with a large percentage of them run by entities with enough resources to pay for both server costs of hosting and distributing large amounts of content and the cost to pay and support the creators on those instances who previously lived mainly on ad revenue or who want to monetize themselves on the platform. Centralized platforms for video take away many of these issues, or make them a ton easier to handle. They allow for easily setting up a subscription based service such as Nebula that the creators know they will be able to at least count on being steady. It may or may not be a lot, but it’s something guaranteed without the creators themselves also having to worry about paying out in server costs, which is still more in income than FreeTube can offer. What would a creator prefer, some guaranteed income with only their video production costs as overhead, or no guarantee of income while bearing both production and hosting costs?
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
The only company that can compete with YouTube is pornhub. People have been begging on their hands and knees for them to enter the hard space. It’s fertile territory, with lots of the kinks worked out. I really hope they spank YouTube in the nuts and give it a go.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
with lots of the kinks
😏
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I see you caught the one reference to porn in their comment
CephalonC@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I mean, there’s about 3 to 4 depending on your interpretation.
And no, I don’t appreciate the cursed knowledge of sexual puns on my part, but you know, furries, am I right?
HopingForBetter@lemmy.today 5 months ago
I’ll agree that competition is not as robust.
However, it will be interesting to see how many “non-techy” people discover how easy it is to find content for free without ads.
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
No, but it’s what other people have paid for. Usually at the end of a video past it’s actual content, in what’s considered the “credits”, people who helped pay are tradiditionaly part of that.
If it’s elsewhere in the video that fucks with flow then yeah, that’s bad, but the normal process has been in place for longer than either of us has been alive
woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Which Sponsor Block skips. My point is that the viewing experience is currently better on YouTube despite the enshittification because the competition is worse. The least would be to support chapter marks but this is one area this specific competitor also lacks and no Sponsor Block alternative for Nebula exists. For much shit on YouTube there are workaround like Sponsor Block. For shit on other platforms these don’t exist.