Comment on Why I ditched Gmail for Proton Mail
BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 8 months agoYour emails are.more private in the same sense that if you have a letter with something on it, turning it over means someone can’t read it over your shoulder, but they could have read it before it got to you.
Google has access to the contents of your inbox, Proton mail does not. But the protocols are unchanged and unencrypted email is accessible in transit.
So moving to Proton is a definite improvement, particularly as email remains a basic means of communication. But as you say if you wand secure communication then it is very flawed.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
But you can get secure email if you’re the sender (you can choose to encrypt) or it’s coming from someone else at Proton.
But yeah, there should be a secure alternative, perhaps an amendment to SMTP where only the “to” address is available. If I have the public key of the receiver, I can encrypt everything else and my email could still be routed properly.
kevincox@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Yeah, this is one of the things that I quite like about Proton. It provides a migration path. You start sending and receiving plain-text mail (then encrypted before saving) but now you can use an open standard protocol to start communicating securely and Proton can slowly lose the ability to read much of your email.
IDK if the other “easy encrypted” providers just use standard PGP.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
AFAIK, Proton’s standard is PGP, they just manage the keys for you (I’m guessing keys are AES encrypted and decrypted on the client) (source):
Tuta doesn’t seem to use PGP, but it uses open encryption standards for it. So it’s a wash IMO since both are only used for internal emails (within their respective platforms).
For messages to external email addresses, they use pretty much the same thing: password-protected access through their platform (i.e. you click a link to Proton or Tuta and enter the password to decrypt).
I don’t know about other email services, but those two both seem pretty good, regardless of whether PGP or GPG is used internally. I haven’t reviewed the source code of either, but both have open clients so maybe I’ll get around to it at some point.
kevincox@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I think you are agreeing with me. I like Proton because it uses a standard protocol and it provides a migration path from unencrypted to encrypted.
PGP and GPG are effectively synonyms in this context. (GPG is just an implementation of PGP)