Comment on It must confuse English learners to hear phrases like, "I'm home", instead of "I am at home." We don't say I'm school, or I'm post office.

BreakDecks@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Think of it this way - it’s “have had” because

  “I had too much to eat” would be past tense, meaning you ate too much, say, last week

  “I have too much to eat” is future tense, meaning you went to the buffet and got carried away, now you’ve got a massive plate of chicken in front of you

  So "I have (right at this moment) had (just ingested) too much to eat (and now I’m farting a lot)

  Also, in this case “to eat” isn’t a noun, it’s the infinitive verb

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• expr@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Technically “to eat” is the Infinitive form of the verb, and using infinitives as nouns isn’t all that unusual in many languages.

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• joel_feila@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To eat, is a verb but taking in the role of a noun.

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• Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Reminded me of this sentence:

  James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher.

  Explanation.

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• ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s so true. Just avoid the awkwardness: I ate too much.

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  • VulKendov@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also sounds much less awkward if you contract I have. For Example: I’ve had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane.

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• TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Most people are talking the infinitive case for “eat”, but I’d like to point out the verb, “have had”, is the present perfect case. Still confusing and still agree with your simplification of “I ate too much”. But there’s still a meaningful difference between the two sentences.

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• scutiger@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But more importantly, did you eat too much, or have you had too much and now you can’t eat?

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• feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t think eat is a noun here, but the grammar is weird isn’t it? Is the food the implicit object of the sentence? I need to study more.

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