I honestly think the worst thing for the Ukraine right now is more funds to fight a war that they basically cannot win.
It’s completely lost.
They need to negotiate for a peace - not pour $61 billion trying to arm those unwilling to fight who are hiding and shirking from responsibility, sending them headlong into meat grinders to go and fight for the Donbass…
The Donbass which arguably didn’t want to be part of Ukraine 3 years ago, and which definitely is a wartorn hellhole right now that has become the de facto home for Ukrainians who fled there that were against the Kiev government.
It’s a really wild situation, pal, and prolonging this war will only bring countless more dead.
Russia is not getting pushed out.
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 4 weeks ago
this is how a lot of “conservatives” feel but reversed… instead we don’t want to see either of these wars publicly funded while America’s resources are strained…
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Oh, you speak for conservatives huh?
Then wake up: the vote for Ukraine aid was damn near down the middle. Once again, you don’t even know what your own party wants. And the american people, who they’re supposed REPRESENT, you know, as REPRESENTATIVES, feels overwhelmingly that the US should aid Ukraine.
SO I think you should say: half of my party voted against aiding Ukraine, but the other half voted for it. Because THAT HALF AREN’T SIMPING FOR PUTIN.
As a footnote, I find this “don’t want to see either of these wars publicly funded” - hilarious. Fuck that bullshit. Conservatives dragged the nation to war with Iraq over specious, ridiculous bullshit, and you want to suddenly espouse this? Your hypocrisy and self ignorance are boundless.
Alice@hilariouschaos.com 3 weeks ago
You need an internet break. Please calm down
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
jawol mein modscheiss!
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 4 weeks ago
Yes, that is our half, the conservatives
We have been espousing this consistently since (and against) Iraq, it is the policy of non-interventionism. The neo-“conservatives” are the ones who want the aggressive wars and to be “world police”
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Ah like the isolationists in 1940, yeah, that’s a great look.
yeah, somehow you’re even worse.
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
America’s funds going to Ukraine wouldn’t be straining our resources if we also defunded our own wars against various nations who haven’t done anything to us.
airrow@hilariouschaos.com 3 weeks ago
true… defund them all!