Comment on please defederate from exploding-heads.com and rammy.site

• wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If you’re saying the members of exploding-heads are in favor of and encouraging killing minorities, then no, I don’t understand. And so far you’re the only one who jas suggested killinh minorities.

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  • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And so far you’re the only one who has suggested killing minorities, so I’d argue you seem a bit extremist.

    I’m a bit slow so your trolling was working on me until this statement. Go fuck yourself.

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• ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  however their content will reach and radicalize fewer people if they are defederated

  The bullshit part of this purity ideology is where “people” are presumed to be innocent rubes who can’t think for themselves and who will be forever tainted if they are contaminated by even a drop of Wrongthink.

  I’m not interested in having my information environment manipulated by technocrats for “my own good.”

  And then there’s the other not-small issue: if “their” “content” is so good at “radicalizing” “people,” maybe you should be addressing the substance of the content instead of engaging in definitionally futile campaigns to conceal its existence.

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  • MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s only bullshit if you’re naive about human nature and ignore the entire concept of memetics.

    As an example, Flat Earthers exist, and are continually indoctrinated via a whole ecosystem of blogs, videos, and online communities.

    You can take some of these flat earthers, once indoctrinated, show them clear experimental evidence to the contrary, and fail at convincing them the earth is round. With enough googling you can find videos of this on youtube, it’s quite amazing to watch the denial in action in the face of clear evidence.

    As the saying goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I’d rather just delete the flat earth videos than spend 20k and a weekend to launch a gopro into space to convince someone the earth is round, and still fail at convincing them because the gopro uses microchips from the globe-heads that manipulate the real flat-earth imagery into being round.

    The futility is in trying to get the cat back in the bag, not in keeping the bag closed.

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  • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And then there’s the other not-small issue: if “their” “content” is so good at “radicalizing” “people,” maybe you should be addressing the substance of the content instead of engaging in definitionally futile campaigns to conceal its existence.

    This is something that has been proven beyond impractical. Hate and disinformation campaigns have been practicing a digital gish-gallop for years, which is only increasing in pace with the wide availability of LLMs and other generative AI. The bar that you propose is rather absurd and would only be remotely achievable with those acting in good faith, which hate and disinformation campaigns do not.

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