Comment on Movie industry demands US law requiring ISPs to block piracy websites
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 months agoSorry, but you wrote with many letters something which doesn’t say how it becomes honest that you get a thing or a knowledge on very specific conditions and then violate them with the intention to do that.
teleprintme@lemmy.world 6 months ago
IANAL
Physical property can not be copied, so if physical property is taken, then the physical property can be stolen.
Digital property can be copied, so if it’s copied, you no longer have a single instance of said property, you now have the original property and the copied property.
Can we actually say with absolute affirmation that it is theft if a good is copied, regardless of what the law states? Is it moral or immoral to copy a good? Can we equate it to actual physical theft of property and state that it has the same level of immorality that allegedly causes harm?
This is where Intellectual Property and Copyright play a role. Copyright is a License granted to use a service or medium of an original work. Anything that can be duplicated, copied, or otherwise easily reproduced without affecting physical removal isn’t necessarily theft. The harm that’s typically claimed is that of affected income.
If I file for a trademark for a Logo, Character, or otherwise recognizable branding, then it “can be said” that “I own said ‘property’”. At this point, it becomes trademarked intellectual property. That’s how and why someone that “owns an IP for a character” can sue someone else for use of said “intellectual property”.
Typically, when someone wants to access said “property”, they need to “pay to gain access” or “gain permission for use”, e.g. a License.
I can only go off of what I’ve read from official sources. Regardless, I think it’s immoral to own an idea. It would be more beneficial to share with society than to hoard ideas that are essentially copyable and easily reproducible mediums of information. It doesn’t cost anything to copy, reproduce, and redistribute the copyable good.
I think a solid middle ground that would benefit both individuals and society as a whole would be to enforce attribution, but not property rights upon non-physical goods or services, e.g. only require accreditation for critical services like health care, insurance, banking, electrical, etc. Owning the intellectual property for, let’s say, a camera for over 75 years and requiring anyone that produces a camera to pay royalties is absurd. Anyone should be able to produce and distribute a camera. Owning the idea for how to create a camera and allowing that affect anyone that can and does produce a camera is immoral, even if it is lawful.
The nuances of how this is considered is open to debate.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Still not talking about what I said.
teleprintme@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You never promised to not copy anything. You were given a copy, are allowed to create copies, but agreed to not distribute copies for income.
Since you prefer to be pedantic while ignoring the overarching theme.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
With software you accept an EULA. It’s just a technicality due to the law being in place with books and movies, so it’s implicitly considered your obligation there, which is, I agree, not nice.
You’ll just have an EULA for books and movies to accept.
Your arguments for that situation?