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phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Yes.
And no.
You don’t need every tiny detail to be right. But if you’re just doing whatever the hell you want, changing literally everything, and most importantly, changing a thoughtful and positive show with great characters and stories into a simple CGI driven pre pew show with a bunch of anti social ashhats as your main cast… Then don’t call it star trek. Then make your own show, call it what you want.
Don’t take existing characters and strip them of everything that made them great and then whine about toxic fandom if fans call you out.
I’m not on Reddit, I don’t know how the fandom is, but on Reddit I’d say “now queue the down votes and bans” because new trek fans there apparently don’t like people who remember what star trek was.
That’s not really about canon though. That’s more the broader feel of the shows and character development. Picking over canon is picking over “facts” which were established in previous episodes.
I think the show runners have largely realised the mistakes of the early seasons of DISCO which is why LD, SNW and Prodigy have been received much better; they simply feel more right.
USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 8 months ago
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phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Yes, thanks for the illustration
USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 8 months ago
I thought it was appropriate to the tag at the end of your little gatekeeping rant.
As someone who’s been watching Trek since before TNG, I’ve seen arguments like yours applied to nearly every new iteration of the franchise from TNG to the modern day.
SwampYankee@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Not the guy you’re responding to, but Discovery and Picard are awful entirely on their own merits; so bad, in fact, that it took me four years to recover enough to try Strange New Worlds, which was great by the way. Lower Decks and Prodigy aren’t really for me, but I’ve caught enough of them to know they’re quality entertainment, too.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Then how come you can’t see the difference between tos to TNG, and classic trek vs the new crap? I say crap, because that’s what it is. Discovery was beyond godawful, horrible characters… ST Picard destroyed nearly all love I had for trek, I haven’t watched anything for over a year now, first the first time in my life.
Look at the Orville, THAT is TNG in a modern jacket, done by someone who knows and loves trek. The nu drek was done by people who don’t give a damn about star trek and it shows.
Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No thanks, too distracted, lost instruction