Comment on NUC, Proxmox and HA (a noob seeking for help)
Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 5 months agoI hear what you’re saying and honestly it’s not something I had thought about, so thanks for that.
For myself I should be good if your prediction comes true since I already have Home Assistant through my own domain using Cloudflare. I could theoretically move all my stuff to my own domain and Nginx, etc.
I like Tailscale because I don’t have to do all that. I’m new to Self Hosting (no I’m new to running multiple VMs) so finding something that just works with minimal effort is great for a noob. I wanna learn the things (networking), but I wanna learn other things (loads!) first.
Cloudflare and a Domain wasn’t as hard as DuckDNS and Nginx, but Tailscale was easier and cheaper than that in my adventures on Home Assistant. I’ve gone from hard to easy mode.
At some point a hobby has to cost money, I may be happy to pay for Tailscale if there’s more features. I’d like to replace SMB mounts with Tailnet mounts, but currently that’s not a thing to my knowledge.
Oh and I’m not really shouting from rooftops on a self hosted Lemmy server, it’s more like a quiet chat around a campfire telling a potential newcomer and easy way. It may cost in the future or they may make enough from Businesses that they keep a free tier, but currently it’s free and easy.
dai@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Ahh the shouting from the rooftops wasn’t aimed at you, but the general group of people in similar threads. Lots of people shill tailscale as it’s a great service for nothing but there needs to be a level of caution with it too.
I’m quite new to the self hosting game myself, but services like tailscale which have so much insight / reach into our networks are something that in the end, should be self hosted.
If your using SMB locally between VMs maybe try proxmox, https//clan.lol/ is something I’m looking into to replace Proxmox down the line. I share bind-mounts currently between multiple LXC from the host Proxmox OS, configuration is pretty easy, and there are lots of tutorials online for getting started.
Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Now then:
Are you sharing SMB mounts? I have my HDDs passed through to OMV and have considered just trying to pass them through to other VMs, but never tried because I don’t wanna break anything.
I have seen that you can share SMB to Proxmox and use them in Proxmox but don’t know if you can use them in VMs too.
As it is I really struggled with mounting smb for a couple of weeks and then had an “aha” moment last weekend, and have it all figured out now.
The Tailnet idea was so I can just mount everything to the Tailnet and stop worrying about whether it’s on this vlan or that. I was trying to set up an Openwrt container with VPN, which I could use for any container that needs a vpn, but then those containers couldn’t see the main network properly…
I’ve given up on that now and have my SMB mounts all set up, but feel like pass-through would give better network speeds for moving things around.
dai@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yeah there is a workaround for using bind-mounts in Proxmox VMs: gist.github.com/…/7e4a6f6f36610eeb0bbb5d011c8ca0b…
If you wanted, and your drives are mounted to the Proxmox host (and not to a VM), try an LXC for the services you are running, if you require a VM then the above workaround would be recommended after backing up your data.
I’ve got my drives mounted in a container as shown here: Image
Basicboi config, but it’s quick and gets the job done.
I’d originally gone down the same route as you had with VMs and shares, but it’s was all too much after a while.
I’m almost rid of all my VMs, home assistant is currently the last package I’ve yet to migrate. Migrated my frigate to a docker container under nixos, tailscale exit node under nixos too while the vast majority of other packages are already in LXC.
Lifebandit666@feddit.uk 5 months ago
This all sounds awesome. So eli5 I have all my drives mounted to Proxmox, then passed through to OMV in a VM.
I can just mount these same drives to containers no issues right now, and I can add them to VMs using your link?
I would like to get down to LXCs too, but I’ve found VMs so much easier to set up and use. I’ll try your way
nosnahc@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think you guys lots me haha!