Comment on Building bombings and 14-year-old hitmen: Organized crime overwhelms Sweden
Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 2 months agoHow about identifying why these people are joining gangs rather than just “brown people join gangs because theyre brown”
Perhaps its because they are treated differently than their swedish compatriots or perhaps its a socioeconomic reason.
Sadly, i do not have the ability to conjecture without data. However, i can make one thing clear. Theyre not joining gangs “just because”.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Perhaps it’s because there was a country they could just go to without any supporting reason and live on welfare.
I live in Russia, I’m confident they’d have the same problem with Russian immigrants if there were a lot of them and if the same rules would apply to them. It’s definitely not culturally superior to Syria, LOL.
Ah, and to some extent you are right, Swedes are a bit unconsciously racist, I think I’ve seen anonymous polls etc about “whether you’d accept your daughter marrying a ME person” with surprising results. That’s a downside of non-inclusiveness being completely unacceptable in the public space, people are still racist, but there’s no chain of small steps for them to become less so.
Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The results of those polls arent surprising.
Europeans are racist. Full stop.
Iceblade02@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Probably because the knee jerk reaction is that ME person ≈ muslim and even aside from islam, ME cultural values are highly misogynistic and very backwards when it comes to women.
To be fair, I’d probably be similarly concerned if my hypothetical daughter was looking to marry a deeply religious christian or hindu also.
rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Fair, but how do you tell that from racism then?
I mean, one could treat this question as if everything else were fine with that hypothetical person, without adding something we weren’t asking.
Iceblade02@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Honestly, it possibly is a bit racist - making assumptions based on probabilities and stereotypes.
I am and have been friends and coworkers with several people who were from the ME (muslim and not) and they were decent folks. There was one notable exception (ex of one of my friends) who turned out to be a real piece of work. I’d like to think that by being aware of my prejudices, I can disprove them by informing myself about people, and at least not writing them off until I’ve made myself aware of who they really are.
Either way, if I had a daughter, I hope I’d raise her well enough to be able to trust her to judge these sorts of things on her own once she became an adult.