I’m curious as to what might lead to this.
I was speculating that if playing the game, an actual player fighting the hidden boss Yumiella would be unfairly difficult if she was level 99.
I’m curious as to what might lead to this.
I was speculating that if playing the game, an actual player fighting the hidden boss Yumiella would be unfairly difficult if she was level 99.
megane_kun@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Ahh, I see~
If I am remembering the first episode correctly, it was only after the MC realized that they isekaied into Yumiella that they started to grinding to level 99. If I am going by my earlier estimate of level 75 for the demon lord, Yumiella should be a few handful of levels above that, but perhaps not at the level cap.
But then again, from my experience of JRPGs, hidden bosses are way harder than end-of-story content. For example, Omega Weapon is way harder than Ultimecia in Final Fantasy 8. If we’re taking that into account, Yumiella might as well be at the level cap and then her stats artificially pumped up to increase the difficulty. She’d then spam the hell out of her abilities just to keep the players on their toes or something.
jherazob@beehaw.org 7 months ago
Considering the mention of a party being recommended to be at least level 60 before fighting the Dark Lord, plus some of the things that happen on Book 3 without spoiling anything, the original boss-version Yumiella never was close to the level cap, so my guess would be:
So yeah, Our Yumiella should be able to easily defeat the Dark Lord at this point.
Now, entering Book 3 heavy Spoiler territory (don’t look if you haven’t read it) to further justify these numbers:
spoiler
Yumiella 2 was the only Boss Yumiella survivor on the multiverse branch beating the Hero party because she used our Yumiella leveling techniques, so she was much stronger than normal boss Yumiella, but was still weaker than OUR Yumiella, so she never broke the level cap. That leaves my estimate of her level on Book 3 at somewhere above level 70 up to 80, maybe something in the lower 80s, but lower than level 90.
megane_kun@lemm.ee 7 months ago
My takeaway here is that Game Yumiella is pretty much possible to beat given enough patience, lol!
Just grind way past level 70, outfit your party with the best gear in the game, and you’re good to go! But then again, everyone making a big deal about how Our Yumiella has reached level 99 may perhaps mean that gaining levels above a certain point (let’s just assume level 60, the exp needed to gain one level is so insane, and mobs don’t give enough exp).
I’m just spitballing here though, but I’m glad that my quick guess from what we’re given in the anime (and some basic assumptions) doesn’t seem that far off.
jherazob@beehaw.org 7 months ago
As Yumiella herself explained i think on episode 1, you can beat the Dark Lord when you’re after certain level with strategy and good playing, but Game Yumiella pretty much needed brute force. This pretty much reflects the experience on many JRPGs (most of my experience on these is with Final Fantasy where it amply applies), you can beat the Final Boss with strategy and the right combination of skills and whatever without needing to grind much, but when there’s a hidden boss you goddamn better grind a lot and level up to even have a remote chance, damn your skills and all that. Game Yumiella seems to be in this exact spot. The things on Book 3 that i mention help in determining the levels but we just don’t know for sure without the author explicitly giving numbers anywhere (anyone around with the right connections wanna ask for us? Pretty please? 😄)