Yumiella said something like “it takes a party of lvl 60 to defeat the demon lord”, and assuming an exponential exp to level function (as with most video games), I suppose the demon lord should be around level 75 or so. It’s just a quick estimation based on a half-remembered line from the anime though. But regardless, given that Patrick has just gotten to level 60, and was implied to be the hardest-working among the cast, I suppose Alicia and co’s average level is less than that. Perhaps level 50?
Alicia & Co. trying to defeat Yumiella if she was the actual hidden boss would be difficult indeed.
I’m curious as to what might lead to this. Perhaps Yumiella herself got roped in by the story to become the hidden boss. Perhaps Patrick gets killed, with Yumiella herself being framed for it. At any rate, she’d easily be casted as the true end boss, and entire armies across all kingdoms and nations will be sent to defeat her.
zabadoh@ani.social 7 months ago
I was speculating that if playing the game, an actual player fighting the hidden boss Yumiella would be unfairly difficult if she was level 99.
megane_kun@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Ahh, I see~
If I am remembering the first episode correctly, it was only after the MC realized that they isekaied into Yumiella that they started to grinding to level 99. If I am going by my earlier estimate of level 75 for the demon lord, Yumiella should be a few handful of levels above that, but perhaps not at the level cap.
But then again, from my experience of JRPGs, hidden bosses are way harder than end-of-story content. For example, Omega Weapon is way harder than Ultimecia in Final Fantasy 8. If we’re taking that into account, Yumiella might as well be at the level cap and then her stats artificially pumped up to increase the difficulty. She’d then spam the hell out of her abilities just to keep the players on their toes or something.
jherazob@beehaw.org 7 months ago
Considering the mention of a party being recommended to be at least level 60 before fighting the Dark Lord, plus some of the things that happen on Book 3 without spoiling anything, the original boss-version Yumiella never was close to the level cap, so my guess would be:
So yeah, Our Yumiella should be able to easily defeat the Dark Lord at this point.
Now, entering Book 3 heavy Spoiler territory (don’t look if you haven’t read it) to further justify these numbers:
spoiler
Yumiella 2 was the only Boss Yumiella survivor on the multiverse branch beating the Hero party because she used our Yumiella leveling techniques, so she was much stronger than normal boss Yumiella, but was still weaker than OUR Yumiella, so she never broke the level cap. That leaves my estimate of her level on Book 3 at somewhere above level 70 up to 80, maybe something in the lower 80s, but lower than level 90.
megane_kun@lemm.ee 7 months ago
My takeaway here is that Game Yumiella is pretty much possible to beat given enough patience, lol!
Just grind way past level 70, outfit your party with the best gear in the game, and you’re good to go! But then again, everyone making a big deal about how Our Yumiella has reached level 99 may perhaps mean that gaining levels above a certain point (let’s just assume level 60, the exp needed to gain one level is so insane, and mobs don’t give enough exp).
I’m just spitballing here though, but I’m glad that my quick guess from what we’re given in the anime (and some basic assumptions) doesn’t seem that far off.