Comment on degree in bamf

• Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This robs people of their individual context. The UK Prime Ministers wife is Indian and astonishingly privileged. You see suggesting a poor mine worker from Romania is somehow more privileged.

  Lumping people into loose categories (particularly based on skin colour) and then prescribing loose values to them is fascist and racist.

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  • DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You are suggesting a poor mine worker from Romania is somehow more privileged based on how he looks.

    You misunderstand the concept of privilege. It’s not linear. Intersectionality was devised to solve this exact contradiction.

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    • Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Expand?

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      • The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Intersectionality is the idea that various forms of privilege and circumstance interact with each other to make an individual. Certain influences are more impactful upon a particular person’s circumstances, and thus influence privilege to a much greater extent. The non-linear nature that DinosaurThussy is talking about can better be shown with examples.

        If you’re homeless and white it’s clear that you’re in a worse off situation than a billionaire who is black. Class status has a far greater influence on this situation. It would be fair to say that the black billionaire has more privilege due to his class status but not his ethnic identity. That being said, it’s unlikely that the white man was denied a job due to his race in a way a homeless black person may be. Being poor and white and poor and black have many commonalities, but intersectional analysis allows us to understand the different ways and avenues that particular characteristics influences the ways that a person may end up in a particular circumstance.

        The idea continues on. A person who is a billionaire may be significantly shielded from a lot of racism, or face it in a less extreme way. For example, that proverbial black billionaire likely wouldn’t have many run ins with racist cops in impoverished neighborhoods. However, he still might face the unifying characteristic of being called a slur by his peers in the way that a poor black person might. His privilege of wealth may not complete inoculate him facing racism at all, even if he faces it in a less extreme way.

        In essence, this situation is viewing individuals dialectic-ly. It seeks to understand how all of a person’s identity and circumstances relate to the struggles and oppression certain groups or people may face in society.

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      • Adkml@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That poor mine worker is still in a better position than an otherwise identical minority would be in the same position.

        A poor mine worker is in a tough place but at least he wasn’t refused that job because the company doesn’t hire non white people.

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      • AOCapitulator@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For example, just because a queer person is white does not mean they experience the same privilege as a cis het white person, would be one example of this

        Or how all women are oppressed, but the tribulations of white women are Not the same as those facing women of color or trans women, for example

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  • kristina@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    youre deliberately misinterpreting the concept of intersectionality.

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    • Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not deliberately mistinterpreting anything, if I don’t understand something, then explain it to me.

      Incredibly privileged of you to assume everyone else has your spoilt middle class educational background

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      • frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re posting to a niche reddit-clone that you only could’ve reliably found out about through either reddit, twitter, or mastodon. You have access to Google, you disingenuous twit.

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      • Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Incredibly privileged of you to assume everyone else has your spoilt middle class educational background

        berdly-actually uhm, actually, it is in fact YOU who is the privileged one in this scenario

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      • LeninsBeard@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        smuglord

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      • kristina@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        if I don’t understand something, then explain it to me.

        ok so you have deliberately removed as many brain cells as possible from your brain, understood 07

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  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This robs people of their individual context.

    Is the context not that in STEM women often face sexism?

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I honestly have to pretend that sexism in STEM is nowhere near as bad as I know it is for the sake of my own mental health. I’ve heard incredible stories of blatant sexism from colleagues and friends that I just can’t fathom

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      • fossilesque@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve had to defend a close friend from repeated advances and touching, she was an engineer, he was 40 years older than her. It’s a problem. I’ve had good friends get taken advantage of by a PI. Gross. It’s the power dynamic in academia too where one person controls the career outcome of the PhD student. It’s really nuts out there. It’s getting better but that takes time and awareness.

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    • Dra@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Address what I said, not something else

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is the individual context not that in STEM women often face sexism, not something else?

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      • Adkml@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lmao guck off you debate pervert

        You don’t get to say a bunch of dumb shit then pose one thought terminating question to try to pigeonhole somebody into saying you’re technically not wrong on this one thing (even though you are) and refusing to engage with the dozens of people whonare explaining to you why you’re wrong about pretty much everything.

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  • OftenWrong@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not the “I know of this one poc that’s in a position of power and so white privilege doesn’t exist” argument lol

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