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aCosmicWave@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• admin@lemmy.xcoolgroup.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Being creative does oftentimes require taking risks, and oftentimes unintentionally crossing lines, so I'm with you on that.

  On the other hand, the only mention of women being how they're required to go commando is... not likely to be an environment women want to be in.

  As for political correctness, to quote Neil Gaiman:

  I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”

  Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.

  Maybe there are times when that's not what's happening, but most of the times I see it used, it's people complaining that they can't act like jerks without consequence.

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  • aCosmicWave@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is a great perspective! Thanks for sharing the quote. Maybe the fact that I laugh at political incorrectness (or disrespect of others) says more about me and the way I was brought up than I even realize.

    There’s got to be some benefit to being able to express yourself freely even if it comes at the expense of others though, no? Accepted social norms have a habit of becoming outdated. Sometimes the reason they become outdated is because we shine a light on the ridiculous nature of some our behaviors. I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes too much respect may come at the expense of stagnation?

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    • admin@lemmy.xcoolgroup.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think I'm largely in agreement with you -- yes, I absolutely want people to respect each other, and start from that perspective. Mostly because there are a lot of super lazy jokes about groups of people that aren't funny because they're not clever, they're just bigoted.

      But when people say, "too much political correctness", that tends to be what they're talking about. E.g., some jerk makes a joke about their pronouns being attack/helicopter or something, showing that they don't understand pronouns and that they don't understand that humor should involve something unexpected, not something super expected, if one assumes the person has bigoted ideas.

      But plenty of people make good humor with various groups because they don't fall into those standard tropes.

      And if someone is punching up, absolutely respect should be kept to the bare minimum.

      Or, in other words, basic respect is about learning about a topic. "Too much respect" would be never pointing out various oddities in a group that you otherwise have basic respect for.

      Because, yeah, people act in funny ways. Especially when acting as a group.

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