Comment on There's Nothing Green About Socialism - HumanProgress

• traveler01@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They are social democracies. Even Wikipedia makes it clear.

  Dunno where people got the idea these countries where socialist.

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  • psud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You are using a cold war definition of socialism. It’s outdated

    Socialism isn’t the opposite of democracy

    Socialism is what social democracies do.

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    • traveler01@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Socialism is what social democracies do.

      You’re now following in the most common argument fallacy between socialists/communists, called No true Scotsman.

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      • psud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Except it’s you that’s using an outdated definition for socialism, you are the odd one out here, the rest of us all agree on that as a type of socialism

        Note that Wikipedia does not call Venezuela socialist or communist, though the outdated ideas you’re relying on do

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  • Sl00k@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Your wiki links sentence says it’s within socialism which would make them socialist.

    Social democracy is a political, social, and economic philosophy within socialism

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    • psud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Funnily enough Wikipedia’s entry for Saudi Arabia doesn’t use socialism anywhere in it, and Venezuela only has “socialist” in political party names

      I wonder if to be socialist you need to implement social policies for the benefit of the people rather than for the benefit of the government (by preventing revolt)

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