Comment on There's Nothing Green About Socialism - HumanProgress

• what_is_a_name@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sounds like your definition of “socialism” is (like Cato’s) “a state that is easy to criticise”. ACS did are some of the most socialist governments. They are clever about it for sure but that is why they are so inconvenient. Hell look as Norway socialising profits a from oil exploration to lift an entire nation out of poverty.

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• psud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You what, mate? They’re among the most socialist nations in the world, more so than Argentina or China

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  • traveler01@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They are social democracies. Even Wikipedia makes it clear.

    Dunno where people got the idea these countries where socialist.

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    • psud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You are using a cold war definition of socialism. It’s outdated

      Socialism isn’t the opposite of democracy

      Socialism is what social democracies do.

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      • traveler01@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Socialism is what social democracies do.

        You’re now following in the most common argument fallacy between socialists/communists, called No true Scotsman.

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    • Sl00k@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Your wiki links sentence says it’s within socialism which would make them socialist.

      Social democracy is a political, social, and economic philosophy within socialism

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      • psud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Funnily enough Wikipedia’s entry for Saudi Arabia doesn’t use socialism anywhere in it, and Venezuela only has “socialist” in political party names

        I wonder if to be socialist you need to implement social policies for the benefit of the people rather than for the benefit of the government (by preventing revolt)

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