You use the same vowel for ‘what’ as you do for ‘up’?
:confused Australian noises:
Comment on xkcd #2907: Schwa
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Don’t a lot of these use the “strut” vowel (/ʌ/) and not schwa (/ə/) per se?
My transcription would be
/wʌts ʌp? wʌz dʌg gənə kʌm? dʌg lʌvz bɹʌntʃ. nʌʔʌ dʌgz stʌk kəz əv ə tʌnəl əbstɹʌkʃən. ə tɹʌk dʌmpt ə tʌn əv ʌnjənz. ʊχ./
TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 8 months ago
WoahWoah@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oh you’re Australian. Yeah, most dialects in the US say “what” and “up” with a schwa.
Wut up. The ‘u’ vowel sound in “up” is the same one in “what” in most American dialects.
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 8 months ago
yup
mihnt@lemmy.world 8 months ago
whut?
TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Australian version is similar:
/wɒts ʌp? wʌz dʌg gənə kʌm? dʌg lʌvz bɹʌntʃ. nʌʔʌ dʌgz stʌk kəz ɒv ə tʌnəl ɒbstɹʌkʃən. ə tɹʌk dʌmpt ə tʌn ɒv ʌnjənz. əχ./
nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Dann y’all are good at IPA
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 8 months ago
It helps when most of the vowels are the same and most other letters match their English counterparts lol.
In case you get the urge to learn sooner:
Here are some quick refs for consonants and vowels in English (RP = received pronunciation (a standardized form of English from the UK), GA = General American). Wikipedia pages for specific English dialects (e.g., Australian English) also contain a bunch of word/IPA pairs. Here are audio charts for vowels and consonants.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Start with dvorak. It’ll ruin you best. You’ll be that person to your it department
lugal@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They merge in many accents merge these two sounds as Dr Geoff Lindsey explains here.
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Thank you for reminding me of this channel, I’d forgotten about it.
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 8 months ago
The point about stress is interesting. I’ve been playing with pronouncing the phrase, and almost everything tends toward [ɐ] when I speak the syllables one at a time, even the ones I marked with and pronounce as a schwa in normal speech. The notable exceptions are the final schwas in “obstruction” and “onions”, which tend toward [ɪ], and the -nel of “tunnel”, which is something like [nɫ] (vocalic ɫ) ~ [nəɫ].