Yeah i made a comment defending the devs just today now i am rethinking my stand and will have to edit it . But i can see both sides here and i find it much more pleasent when dessalines is involved in the conversation nutomic loves to defend himself from really small criticisms in big way i am not throwing shades here but maybe just take a breath nutomic ?
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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months agoUse a different type of playground instead
It’s obvious that people are indeed doing or thinking of doing just that. Don’t get complacent just because things have not changed yet. There is a threshold to cross and once it crossed, things change very very fast. Currently there’s no software out that is as mature as lemmy, but if the trust thermocline is breached, people will prefer to switch to something substandard than support a project they don’t believe anymore.
THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today 9 months ago
nutomic@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
The only ones I want to chase away are those who somehow feel entitled to demand some specific work from me. But that is only a very small part of the userbase. I know Lemmy isn’t perfect and I’m working every day to improve it. If anyone thinks that some area is not getting enough attention, they are welcome to make a pull request and I will happily review it to get the changes merged.
THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today 9 months ago
And i do appreciate tge work you put in like a lot i appreciate it a lot . But if you continue telling everyone giving feedback to go away there won’t be anyone left and that is sad as i love lemmy and how good it is . I am not a hater its like getting angry when you are watching the thing you love slightly burn away you know.
And whenever i come across a rude user or beehaw admin demanding shit there are more downvotes on them and people do defend you and i am one of them so don’t tell us to fuck off we care about lemmy as much as i do and i know you do too as you have spent almost five years on it i hope we can come to an aggreament and hopefully the past issues won’t affect lemmy in the long run .
nutomic@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Thanks for the support,i appreciate it and definitely don’t want people like you to go away. However there has been a lot of negativity during the last week, so automatically my attitude also got more negative in general.
Blaze@dormi.zone 9 months ago
no software out that is as mature as lemmy,
Doesn’t mbin have feature parity?
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I honestly haven’t heard back much from mbin so I dunno
Blaze@dormi.zone 9 months ago
I use it from time to time, it’s quite decent. I prefer the Lemmy UI, so I use it more, but I really could use Mbin much more if it was the opposite
nutomic@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Look at it this way: I’ve spent almost every single working day for the past four years developing Lemmy. I implemented the entire federation logic and much more. Most days and nights I think about ways to improve Lemmy and it’s not easy to shut off. Especially during the Reddit blackout it was extremely stressful as we were completely bombarded with requests, I didn’t even have time to keep up with all the issues.
Yet last week some individuals came along who never made any contributions to Lemmy and never showed the slightest gratitude for my work. They essentially what I’m doing is wrong and that they should be in charge of decisionmaking for Lemmy. One Beehaw admin even said that all my work on Lemmy is meaningless.
I know you and many others have good intentions with your criticism. But after all the negativity of last week I simply don’t have the mindset to accept any of it.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Mate trust me I understand all about Foss stress and burnout. I’ve been doing Foss for way longer than 4 years and the ai horde has been very demanding as well (and I also have a day job and small children) . But through all this, you have to learn to keep your cool. It’s sometimes better to just come out and say “people, I’m close to burnout and I can’t comment now” or “I am going to work on this as fast as I can but if someone can get to it first feel free” etc. It’s way better to explain that you’re overworked than to attack people. It’s also OK to say nothing at all than to go on the offensive. People can understand the former but the latter will never work the way you expect.
I keep saying that this is a pure communication issue. I (and many others like sunaurus) can clearly see you’re working hard and we understand how much there is to do, and this is why I’m dismayed when I see you escalate.
If you want we can get in a voice chat and I can share how I deal with these situations and what has worked for me. Just pm me. I really think this is made unnecessary harder than it needs to be.
nutomic@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Thank you for the offer but its not necessary. Ive also maintained open source projects long before Lemmy so Im familiar with the occasional entitled user on Github. In my experience its not a good idea to make any promises to these users because they will view their entitlement as justified, and make more demands.
However its a completely different quality when its not just Github comments, but multiple blog posts within a few days attacking Lemmy and me personally. Sure my responses were not ideal, but it was the best I was capable of at that time. If I had said nothing, people would assume that all the accusations are true and I have nothing to defend myself (like the claim that Im a “tankie” which has been going around on Mastodon for years).
In any case I think its better to say something and get my view out rather than being quiet. Sure there are miscommunications but those can be cleared up, and I can learn how to communicate better in the future. On the other hand if I said nothing, I may be left with the impression that my work sucks, and lose all motivation to keep working on Lemmy. Then I would be stuck doing nothing at all. Luckily that hasnt happened, Im still working on the project like before.
The_Lemmington_Post@discuss.online 9 months ago
Sadly, complaining seems to be one of the activities that people like to do the most. I understand the frustration of dealing with negativity, especially when you’ve poured immense effort into developing Lemmy over the years. However, embracing a Complaint-Driven Development approach could help turn critiques into opportunities for improvement. One way to facilitate this could be to establish a set of transparent rules or guidelines on how you prioritize issues and feature requests. This transparency can help manage expectations and foster a more collaborative relationship with the users in your community. While not all complaints may be actionable, actively listening to feedback and explaining your prioritization criteria could go a long way in building trust and goodwill. Open communication and a willingness to consider diverse perspectives can lead to a stronger, more user-centric product in the long run.