Comment on House panel unanimously approves bill that could ban TikTok

• bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  they are propaganda machines though

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  • CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To a degree, yes. But nowhere near the same context or scale.

    In democratic countries people have the ability to choose their opinions and voice them loudly. This allows many different groups to hold different viewpoints and then express them to other people. And yes social media has been used as propaganda platforms by those groups. Yet none of those groups have full unilateral control of a country under dictator-like rule.

    The difference is that the CCP is a single party government. Xi Jinping has recently abolished term limits, effectively making himself a defacto dictator. The I-Soon leaks also demonstrate that the CCP is actively trying to disrupt society in other countries (not just the US). They have secret police stations in places like Canada, UK, and US where they monitor and track Chinese people and even intimidate them if they do or say anything the CCP doesn’t like.

    Then there’s the constant attacks on military and fishing ships from countries like the Phillipines and Vietnam. The constant threats of annihilation of Taiwan. Etc etc.

    You cannot equate the two.

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    • bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      tiktok and Facebook use in the US have nothing to do with anything you are rambling about.

      Facebook manufactures consent for the military industrial complex and capitalist interests and since it is not overtly controlled by Lockheed or the Pentagon, it's propaganda is more sinister. at least you know who pulls the strings at tiktok

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      • CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You sound like a Wumao

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  yes they are run by the us empire, which has a more violent history.

  still not seeing the point of banning one over the other

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  • CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re just spouting whataboutism. It’s not an argument, it’s a deflection tactic.

    I have no love for Instagram or Facebook. IMO they should both be banned and have all data erased. The planet would be better off without them.

    But that’s not the topic of conversation.

    The US isn’t an adversarial country to itself. The CCP is an adversarial country to the US, and most of the world.

    which has a more violent history

    Ah yes, so the CCP is A-OK because you claim they have a “less violent history”. Makes perfect sense.

    Tell me, how many people died during the Long March and the “Great” Leap Forward?

    In any case, the bill is not about banning TikTok. The bill is about selling ownership of TikTok to a US owned firm to take away control from the CCP. And then only if a sale cannot be arranged, to ban it as a last resort.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      the real enemy of the world is the US by a long shot. what the US does warrants invasions and wars on 3rd world countries by the US, the same isnt true for china.

      no country has such a dark and murderous history. my country is on that list and we are suffering from the consequences still, more than half a century later.

      and yes, having people die of starvation in one of the poorest countries in the planet is sadly expected. no system of government can fix a country that huge overnight, no matter how shoddily calculated the numbers are. lets instead point our fingers to british rule creating famine and suffering.

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