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• MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They’re also useful because they’re easy to deploy, portable, and isolate things breaking from affecting the host or other containers.

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• SDK@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The confidence with which you make this factually incorrect statement is mind bending.

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  • Bookmeat@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure, let’s add another layer of complexity for the user to set up their network, storage, and other external resources and call it easier and simpler.

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What are you talking about… Containers make it way easier to setup and operate services, especially multicomponent services like Immich. I just tried Immich and it took me several minutes to get it running. If I wanted to give it permanent storage, I’d have to spend several more to make a directory then add a line in a file and restart it.

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    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because it’s easier to tell someone “use this docker image” than it is to tell them “go through all of these thousands of steps to get this service working”.

      The main reason I use containers for my personal things is easy to setup and to migrate, those are huge points, and the added complexity is not that much, in fact I would argue it’s less complicated to figure out why a docker image is not running than figure out why a service stopped responding.

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      • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Agreed, sure scaling is one factor, but I don’t think this person has ever really dived into why containers are slick. Why you aren’t tracking down what dependency hell caused your app to crash. Conflicting cuda versions. Two apps using the same port. Trying to decipher a language you’ve never used before

        Whenever I hear “containers don’t make sense” I read it as “I don’t understand containers”. There are some real flaws to them, but no self respecting ops engineer would ever say “containers have no value beyond scaling”

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      • Atemu@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is a false dichotomy. Just because containers make it easy to ship software, doesn’t mean other means can’t be equally easy.

        NixOS achieves a greater ease of deployment than docker-compose and the like without any containers involved for instance.

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    • summerof69@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sure, let’s add another layer of complexity for the user to set up their network, storage, and other external resources

      That’s why you don’t use containers?

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• uzay@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Containers are useful for a lot more things than scaling. E.g. portability, ease of setup, dependency separation.

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• matcha_addict@lemy.lol ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Containers have numerous other benefits. Checkout this blog post, it goes into some of them:

  cosmicbyt.es/…/demistifying-containers-part-1/

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  • Bookmeat@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks, this is a nice resource.

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• MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you’re talking about k8s or similar, the initial time investment is heavy. After that though, it’s not very hard to get containers running with HA, better network segmentation and compatibility across run times. Containers are a lot more portable too, and allow granular levels of isolation and security.

  Also, I personally think SELinux is somewhat hard to do well.

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