Comment on Weird idea continues connecting fediverse and email

maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• otl@apubtest2.srcbeat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  > Excuse my ignorance but how will the fediverse defend itself against email spam? That's a good question. Right now there's very little stopping people from spinning up some ActivityPub server and blasting out messages. I'm actually surprised at how little ActivityPub spam there is currently. One of the awesome things about the fediverse is how anti-commercial it is right now. Maybe it's not a major target for spam because there's not a lot of money in it.

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• AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Defederation would be my guess

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  • Marsupial@quokk.au ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But if you can keep spamming our (heh) a new site for like 99c a domain name, you could do this a lot despite getting banned.

    The alternative is something like FediSeer where you can get sites guaranteed by others and block anything not given the all-clear, but that really harms the ability for new sites to appear.

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    • otl@apubtest2.srcbeat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      > The alternative is something like FediSeer where you can get sites > guaranteed by others and block anything not given the all-clear, but > that really harms the ability for new sites to appear. If something like this were to gain lots of traction I'd hope it would be something not too difficult to implement by smaller new sites. What really sucks is the situation with email now: it's really tricky to get stuff delivered if you're not Google/Microsoft. The barrier to entry is way, way too high :(

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      • Skelectus@suppo.fi ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I joined fediseer with this lemmy instance. I don’t know what’s going to happen with your self-built software, but getting a guarantee is easy, if your instance looks credible. I’m not aware of anyone that uses it as a filter at this point either.

        Anyway, this is an awesome project. If you keep working on it and need a fediseer guarantor for the site, I’m happy to do that.

        See their lemmy community: lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/fediseer

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    • otl@apubtest2.srcbeat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      > The alternative is something like FediSeer where you can get sites > guaranteed by others and block anything not given the all-clear, but > that really harms the ability for new sites to appear. If something like this were to gain lots of traction I'd hope it would be something not too difficult to implement by smaller new sites. What really sucks is the situation with email now: it's really tricky to get stuff delivered if you're not Google/Microsoft. The barrier to entry is way, way too high :(

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    • Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But if you can keep spamming our (heh) a new site for like 99c a domain name, you could do this a lot despite getting banned.

      I mean you already could do that with something like ActivityPub proxy or just change your instance domain every time. Thing is even though people can, it’s not that likely they will or if they do, that they’ll keep it up for long.

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