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disposabletentacle@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

It's just very hard to find a compromise or "agree to disagree" when the topic of debate is something like should LGBT people be allowed to exist. The days are long past where the right/left divide was all about economic policy -- the divide lies along basic human values at this point. You're going to be hard pressed to find people who can engage with you calmly when you're defending a party whose primary concerns right now are stripping away civil rights from their least favorite human beings before all else.

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Balssh@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Yup, pretty much. And most of the times I've seen right wing people just come comment the most batshit crazy thing imaginable. This doesn't mean left wing lunatics don't exist too.

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Strangle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
This is something people on the right just find absolutely ridiculous. No one. NO ONE, think LGBT people shouldn’t be allowed to exist.

This is a big part of the problem, another response to my comment said people who think like I do support genocide.

Like this just sounds so hyperbolic and absolutely laughably ridiculous that no one has the patience to put up with it. It’s not a discussion.

You think I want an entire group of people to not exist. You have been taught this from somewhere and it’s not true. But you’ll never realize that.

So what’s the point?

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- Jimbo@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Would you care so explain the policy changes right wing politicians are making then?
  
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  - Strangle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    www.conservative.ca/pierre-poilievre/
    
    This is who I’m voting for in the next Canadian election. I have a hard time disagreeing with anything Pierre Poilievre is campaigning on.
    
    You can find a lot of him speaking in parliament on YouTube if you’re interested
    
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- bane_killgrind@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  But there are people recently that have said they should get stuck into asylums.
  
  Does existing not include participating in society?
  
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  - Strangle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I don’t think gay or trans people shouldn’t participate in society. That doesn’t make any sense.
    
    There are people that say a lot of crazy shit I don’t agree with, on the left as well.
    
    Is there an argument that trans people need help? I think that’s pretty obvious. Is the help needed for the brain or the body? I think thats where a lot of disagreement comes from.
    
    When I think about it, I can see why someone would think that surgery on a healthy body because the mind thinks it was born in the wrong body could be the wrong thing to do.
    
    I don’t think that’s at all unreasonable. Most mental illnesses are treated by treating the mind.
    
    And if your mind disagrees with the healthy body you were born in, I can see how the mine might be the place to start treatment, and not the body.
    
    However, I also believe in adults being able to make their own decisions. Just as if someone wants to have cosmetic surgery to install horns in their head, or someone wants breast augmentation surgery, go fill your boots.
    
    So if someone wants a surgeon to create a cosmetic neovagina forcthemselves and that would make them happy, go for it.
    
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    bane_killgrind@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    So there's the rub. Are puberty blockers treatment for the mind or body? If it's a "body" treatment and therefore the "wrong place to start" should children not have access to this treatment until they are 18? It does reduce morbidity of the condition.
    
    You get shit on for your opinions because they are both uninformed and callous. You are also missing the point of the healthcare by focusing on elective cosmetic surgeries.
    
    The way you talk about this subject is just awful.
    
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