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• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not stability,

  What does this even mean in the context of data you’d transfer in Matrix?

  ease of debugging

  Ease in which context? What’s so much harder to which you are comparing it?

  less block rate,

  Are you certain that something TCP-based gives that? Latency sucks too.

  and easy SSL protection

  PKI is crap. Just saying. Easy and wrong.

  The horror!!

  Nobody said that.

  And such an esteemed thing as Gnutella uses Web technologies.

  I just don’t like it. It’s my opinion. Just as you have yours.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What does this even mean in the context of data you’d transfer in Matrix?

    It means it’s a robust well-tested protocol

    Ease in which context? What’s so much harder to which you are comparing it?

    It’s a robust, well tested, and well known protocol.

    Are you certain that something TCP-based gives that? Latency sucks too.

    Firewall: Allow 80 Allow 443 Allow 53 to <internal DNS server> Deny to any

    PKI is crap. Just saying. Easy and wrong.

    What’s the better solution?

    I just don’t like it. It’s my opinion. Just as you have yours.

    Yeah it has a lot of problems, but all the things you listed are the least of it. Still better than anything else.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It means it’s a robust well-tested protocol (referring to HTTP)

      XMPP by now is no less well-tested.

      Average company firewall: Allow 80 Allow 443 Allow 53 to <internal DNS server> Deny to any

      Average company firewall shouldn’t allow 80 and 443 to outside anyway.

      Anyway, that could have been a fallback, it’s the only way instead.

      Doing an IM over TCP I can understand. VoIP signalling over TCP is not serious.

      What’s the better solution?

      Look at Retroshare. In this particular regard (not its whole model of security, which is seemingly not good, but I’m not a specialist) it does things right, I think.

      Yeah it has a lot of problems, but all the things you listed are the least of it.

      And which are not in your opinion?

      Still better than anything else.

      Still not better than XMPP, so factually wrong. =)

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      • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        By firewall I mean outgoing. And XMPP is kind of a non-starter.

        Peer to peer is also a non starter. You have to have some kind of email-like structure.

        What’s so good with XMPP?

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