@allen099 That is my point. That is why I am outraged. I am still swearing every time I think about it. Unbelievable the nerve!!
The Arrogance!!
@Snowshadow @Gargron Agree! Though for me, part of the appeal of being in an open world (Fediverse) is not having someone sign me up for something I didn’t ask for. It’s a simple as that.
Snowshadow@mastodon.social 2 months ago
shiri@foggyminds.com 2 months ago
@Snowshadow @allen099 you are not being signed up for anything with this, it's just another instance translating between the two protocols and all normal tools still apply.
The arrogance is thinking you can make public posts on a federate platform and dictate how they federate.
I'll also note that this isn't a corporate person doing this, it's a private individual. Bluesky has promised to federate under it's own protocol since it's beginning, once it does so you will see many instances on the bluesky protocol much the same as we're talking on the activitypub protocol, this bridge just connects the two protocols and a lot of people are interested in implementing such tools because that's the whole point of federation.
allen099@mastodon.online 2 months ago
@shiri @Snowshadow Am I understanding correctly that you think it’s arrogant to simply ask an instance moderator a question, while not threatening to burn the village down?
It’s cool that people are interested. Where there’s one side, there’s another. The point we’re trying to make is this should be OptIn BECAUSE it’s created by a private entity, that’s all. It’s not an outrageous take.
scott@authorship.studio 2 months ago
@AllenThe point we’re trying to make is this should be OptIn BECAUSE it’s created by a private entity, that’s all. It’s not an outrageous take.
Out of the over 46,000 independently operated servers on the fediverse, how many are run by private entities? I don't know but I am guessing that it is more than 1.
At least with Bluesky and Threads, it is easy to block. But I am guessing that it would be nearly impossible to figure out which of the 46,000 ActivityPub-enabled servers are commercial and which are not.
And Threads will be connecting to ActivityPub natively. And so will WordPress. Both will bring in millions of users.
I respect people's choice to block whomever they want, but the ActivityPub part of the fediverse already has commercial servers in it. Bluesky would just be one more, which you are free to block.
proximacentauri@mstdn.social 2 months ago
@allen099 @Snowshadow @Gargron Mastodon federates by default to all new instances. Bluesky Bridge is only a new instance.
Your problem is with Mastodon, not with this bridge.
Snowshadow@mastodon.social 2 months ago
@proximacentauri @allen099 @Gargron Maybe...
What irritates me is that I left social media for quite a period of time b/c I was fed up with the nonsense going on in corp. owned social media platforms. So I found out about fediverse and now threads is here and bluesky.
That's fine...I just don't want to see any of it or interact with those instances and I have blocked them...I don't want that toxic element in my TL.
allen099@mastodon.online 2 months ago
@proximacentauri @Snowshadow @Gargron Which is why I asked @Gargron to opt out.
And, being ok with seeing several problems in one scenario, I also don’t like being opted into something I didn’t ask for.
user8e8f87c@berlin.social 2 months ago
@allen099 @proximacentauri @Snowshadow @Gargron You can also block all bridged bluesky instances. This bridge is a big chance for the fediverse to gain more relevancy. You can go to an instance not federating with them, but you shouldn’t expect @Gargron’s mainstream instances to do so.
chris@mstdn.strafpla.net 2 months ago
@user8e8f87c @allen099 @proximacentauri @Snowshadow @Gargron I have yet to find someone explain to me the difference between the proposed #bluesky bridge and someone following me from a Hubzilla instance.
While my instinctive reaction was “leave us alone” I didn’t find a definition for “us” and I don’t think that the angry people have.
My conclusion is that the bridge is *exactly* what the rest of the #fedi is. All the drama is stupid.
Shun it for size or lack of moderation, not for existing.
Snowshadow@mastodon.social 2 months ago
@user8e8f87c @allen099 @proximacentauri @Gargron I have blocked the instances.
allen099@mastodon.online 2 months ago
@user8e8f87c @proximacentauri @Snowshadow @Gargron I completely agree… And that would be the next step. I would simply spin up my own instance. But as a resident of this instant, I see no harm in asking.