Comment on US Senate passes Ukraine aid, but House Speaker refuses to hold vote

• Blum0108@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What was the Democrats’ bad action in this example?

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  • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When in doubt, just block the vote you’re afraid of losing. Is used by both parties all the time, instead of getting it to the floor and getting it passed or rejected. So you can’t accuse one party of doing it for the bill you want to be passed without acknowledging the same is being done by the other party for the bill you don’t like.

    @retrieval4558@mander.xyz tried to dismiss the argument by showcasing all the bad things were done prior to this bill to justify not bringing the bill to the floor vote by one party, by condemning the identical act by different party.

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    • WarmSoda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What bill are the Dems blocking?

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      • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “I’m never bringing a bill to the floor that doesn’t have the votes.”

        Source: thehill.com/…/573976-pelosi-on-infrastructure-bil…

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    • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He’s asking for an example where the Dems blocked a vote on a topic at or around as significant as a supreme court nominee.

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• Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ok, but you also can’t pretend both parties do it on the same scale when the scales are vastly different or entirely one-sided.

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  • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s my point. The scale of the bad act shouldn’t even be a factor to be able to condemn all bad acts. After that, you can compare which side is better or worse. But this apologizing, justifying and moving the baseline to one side is at the core of two party politics.

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    • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You stopped replying further down the thread as soon as your argument was refuted so I’m not going to waste my time on this

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