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Yes. I never said that those things have no place.

Then why trash an autonomous taxi?

Then either they should have a bus station in walking distance or be covered by a collect taxi service.

Lol. You do not understand the distances involved.

The average human is not a good driver. You have to compare performance, and not just safety but also route efficiency, flexibility to unforseen events etc. not against the average driver, but professional taxi drivers.

Until we live in your made up fantasy world where the only drivers allowed on the road are professionals, then sure. But we’re not, we’re discussing real world performance today.

Why the fuck don’t they live at the farm.

Because they’re not farmers, try and keep up with the conversation.

What’s it with USians trying to make everything as hard for themselves as possible.

I’m not American, and it took literally thousands of years of development to turn Europe into what it is today, so maybe try and have some perspective on the feasibility of your “solutions”.

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barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Then why trash an autonomous taxi?

You mean why did homeless people trash an autonomous taxi? I’d say because inner-city liberal techbros care more about fancy tech toys than providing stuff that people actually need, such as shelter and healthcare. At least that’s the usual logic of riots and vandalism.

Why the fuck don’t they live at the farm.

Because they’re not farmers, try and keep up with the conversation.

So if you work at a farm, but are not a farmer, you can’t live there? You are legally required to have a 20km commute based on a law to preserve the integrity of farm life or something? What kind of bullshit is that.

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- masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  You mean why did homeless people trash an autonomous taxi?
  
  Uh, you can watch the video, it wasn’t homeless people.
  
  So if you work at a farm, but are not a farmer, you can’t live there? You are legally required to have a 20km commute based on a law to preserve the integrity of farm life or something? What kind of bullshit is that.
  
  Lmfao, bruh, you’re a fucking idiot or you’re too tired or you’re a bad fucking bot, but either way you clearly can’t follow a conversation. We’re not talking about people who work on farms.
  
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  - barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Uh, you can watch the video, it wasn’t homeless people.
    
    Elsewhere in the thread someone who knows the city well better than me (or probably you) said that it’s an area known for mobile home encampments. Yes, that’s homelessness, even if it’s upper class homeless.
    
    Again we’re not talking about people who work on farms. We’re talking about people who work in farming communities in jobs that are necessary to support farmers. Most of them don’t even work on a single farm but service multiple farms.
    
    So your electricians etc. which I already said have their commercial vehicles which don’t fall under individual transport. They’re also lugging means of production around.
    
    I invite you again to imagine city roads without commuters. That single change, and nothing else. It’s like 98% of traffic in car-dependent cities.
    
    Merging the threads because I’m getting tired of it:
    
    So now every technology improvement needs to solve every single systemic problem or it’s not worth pursuing?
    
    No. Use autonomous technology if you want. Just don’t hail it as the silver bullet it isn’t when there’s much more deep as well as tried and true solutions to the issues we have. You’re taking attention away from the actual solutions in favour of gadgetry unaffordable for most which need to drive in places like the US. Pedestrians won’t be safe no matter how good the tech becomes, as long your average burger flipper still needs a car to get to work and can’t afford that fancy stuff there’s going to be distracted commuters out there. You could get all of them off the street, pretty much instantly, by having proper public transit.
    
    Oh wow, the literal millions of road deaths every year are now “nothing of relevance”.
    
    Millions of road deaths which don’t need autonomous technology to severely curtail. Have a look at statistics US vs. Netherlands.
    
    No they’re not. Not for the distances covered in many rural areas. Try and wrap your brain around the fact that not everywhere is Europe where there’s millions of people packed into a postage stamp.
    
    Not many pedestrians out there getting run over either, though, are there? Yes of course if you live 100km away from the next power pole you’ll need some form of individual transportation, but you’re also statistically insignificant.
    
    You literally quote the answer to that:
    
    Again, you’d still have a delivery person for critical deliveries, they just wouldn’t be driving.
    
    So how do you push a car out of the way with your fire truck if you aren’t driving?
    
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    masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Elsewhere in the thread someone who knows the city well better than me (or probably you) said that it’s an area known for mobile home encampments. Yes, that’s homelessness
    
    It was in Chinatown during a Chinese New Year’s celebration. I’m honestly done talking to you because you’re a moron.
    
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