Comment on A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco
barsoap@lemm.ee 11 months agoA taxi, you mean like a car? You mean like the Waymo taxi that was trashed?
Yes. I never said that those things have no place.
We’re discussing how there are people in the country who don’t own tractors.
Then either they should have a bus station in walking distance or be covered by a collect taxi service.
Because self driving cars have the potential to be safer and less dangerous than human drivers. Waymo’s safety record is already better than the average human on a per mile basis.
The average human is not a good driver. You have to compare performance, and not just safety but also route efficiency, flexibility to unforseen events etc. not against the average driver, but professional taxi drivers.
The people who work those jobs, also live out in the country.
Why the fuck don’t they live at the farm. What’s it with USians trying to make everything as hard for themselves as possible.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Then why trash an autonomous taxi?
Lol. You do not understand the distances involved.
Until we live in your made up fantasy world where the only drivers allowed on the road are professionals, then sure. But we’re not, we’re discussing real world performance today.
Because they’re not farmers, try and keep up with the conversation.
I’m not American, and it took literally thousands of years of development to turn Europe into what it is today, so maybe try and have some perspective on the feasibility of your “solutions”.
barsoap@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You mean why did homeless people trash an autonomous taxi? I’d say because inner-city liberal techbros care more about fancy tech toys than providing stuff that people actually need, such as shelter and healthcare. At least that’s the usual logic of riots and vandalism.
So if you work at a farm, but are not a farmer, you can’t live there? You are legally required to have a 20km commute based on a law to preserve the integrity of farm life or something? What kind of bullshit is that.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Uh, you can watch the video, it wasn’t homeless people.
Lmfao, bruh, you’re a fucking idiot or you’re too tired or you’re a bad fucking bot, but either way you clearly can’t follow a conversation. We’re not talking about people who work on farms.
barsoap@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Elsewhere in the thread someone who knows the city well better than me (or probably you) said that it’s an area known for mobile home encampments. Yes, that’s homelessness, even if it’s upper class homeless.
So your electricians etc. which I already said have their commercial vehicles which don’t fall under individual transport. They’re also lugging means of production around.
I invite you again to imagine city roads without commuters. That single change, and nothing else. It’s like 98% of traffic in car-dependent cities.
Merging the threads because I’m getting tired of it:
No. Use autonomous technology if you want. Just don’t hail it as the silver bullet it isn’t when there’s much more deep as well as tried and true solutions to the issues we have. You’re taking attention away from the actual solutions in favour of gadgetry unaffordable for most which need to drive in places like the US. Pedestrians won’t be safe no matter how good the tech becomes, as long your average burger flipper still needs a car to get to work and can’t afford that fancy stuff there’s going to be distracted commuters out there. You could get all of them off the street, pretty much instantly, by having proper public transit.
Millions of road deaths which don’t need autonomous technology to severely curtail. Have a look at statistics US vs. Netherlands.
Not many pedestrians out there getting run over either, though, are there? Yes of course if you live 100km away from the next power pole you’ll need some form of individual transportation, but you’re also statistically insignificant.
So how do you push a car out of the way with your fire truck if you aren’t driving?