Comment on Major western news outlets continue to manufacture consent for israel's Genocide

• stonedemoman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s a hard problem to solve. Every time Jews had established themselves in the area they got conquered or kicked out, who’s to say it wouldn’t have just happened again? And it doesn’t help that 5 Arab nations initiated a war of extermination before Zionists had the chance to expose these alleged intentions of ethnic-cleansing. In fact, Israel’s actions of returning land they had captured whenever Arabs went to war with them seemed to be in direct contradiction of the allegations.

  When I examine the entire chain of events, I see two sides that had unrelenting ideologies. Not one.

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  • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Every time Jews had established themselves in the area they got conquered or kicked out, who’s to say it wouldn’t have just happened again?

    What? Palestine has had Jews ever since the Arab conquest.

    And it doesn’t help that 5 Arab nations initiated a war of extermination before Zionists had the chance to expose these alleged intentions of ethnic-cleansing.

    Uh... There had been numerous massacres before Arab involvement in the war. Remember Dier Yassin?

    In early April 1948, the Israelis launched Plan Dalet, a large-scale offensive to capture land and empty it of Palestinian Arabs.

    In fact, Israel’s actions of returning land they had captured whenever Arabs went to war with them seemed to be in direct contradiction of the allegations.

    Uh... What? Israel definitely didn't return that land because they wanted to. Just look at the Golan Heights.

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    • stonedemoman@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What? Palestine has had Jews ever since the Arab conquest. And? Babylonian, Greek, Roman, and Byzantine conquests? Crusades? Ottomans deporting them from Tel Aviv and Gaffa? We just went over this, keep up.

      Uh… There had been numerous massacres before Arab involvement in the war. Remember Dier Yassin? Remember the Hebron massacre in 1929 and 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine that I mentioned? Remember the Hebron massacre of 1834? 1921 Jaffa riots? Stop playing games.

      In early April 1948, the Israelis launched Plan Dalet, a large-scale offensive to capture land and empty it of Palestinian Arabs.

      “According to the Israeli Yehoshafat Harkabi, Plan Dalet called for the conquest of Arab towns and villages inside and along the borders of the area allocated to the proposed Jewish State in the UN Partition Plan.[4] In case of resistance, the population of conquered villages was to be expelled outside the borders of the Jewish state. If no resistance was met, the residents could stay put, under military rule.[qt 1][5][6][7]”

      Peaceful occupation under UN sanctions. Really spooky stuff.

      Uh… What? Israel definitely didn’t return that land because they wanted to. Just look at the Golan Heights.

      You’re going to have to provide sources for this. You’re genuinely coming across as extremely predisposed to pardon any attempt of complete, violent obliteration by Israel’s neighbors. It’s fascinating to watch though.

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      • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And? Babylonian, Greek, Roman, and Byzantine conquests? Crusades? Ottomans deporting them from Tel Aviv and Gaffa? We just went over this, keep up.

        Those are all Europeans. They have 0 relation to anybody in the region today (except the Ottomans who are in kind of a weird spot).

        Nonviolent occupation under UN sanctions. Really spooky stuff.

        Nonviolent. Nonviolent? Do you believe what you just said?

        You’re going to have to provide sources for this. You’re genuinely coming across as extremely predisposed to pardon any attempt of complete, violent obliteration by Israel’s neighbors.

        Uh... Egypt had to declare a whole other war to get Israel to give back Sinai. The Golan heights are effectively Israeli territory today. Palestinians needed the first Intifada to get a semblance of nominal independence. Israel never gave back anything willingly.

        Anyway I won't engage any further, but you need some serious introspection if you actually believe the nonsense you just said.

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