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capital@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Lol samharris.org

  What kind of pretentious loser names an opinion blog site after himself, and bestows a “.org” at the end

  The more I read this crap the more obvious it is this bullshit article relies on lengthy annoying paragraphs that no one wants to read and a “.org” at the end to sound more official

  Myth #1: Israel is guilty of “genocide” in Gaza.

  The term “genocide” has a clear meaning—it’s the destruction or attempted destruction of a whole people.

  Yes , 95% of people starving in the world were in Gaza when Israel chose to withhold aid to them. That is the attempted destruction of a whole people

  Myth #2: International Humanitarian Law Requires that Israel’s response to Palestinian aggression be “proportional.”

  I’m as anti Israel as it gets, and I’ve never heard this argument that you’re legally bound to proportional, sounds like this author really likes the title of the blog counting up to 5.

  That said, there are tons of MORAL arguments against disproportionately killing civilians, but the only legal one that comes to mind is when Israel evacuated Gazans to a region in the south, then bombed that region with white phosphorus cbsnews.com/…/israel-hamas-war-white-phosphorous-…

  Myth #3: The Jews Are Colonizers and the Palestinians are Indigenous People.

  Not the Jews, but, the Israelis are colonizers. Biblically they were a nomadic war faring tribe. They never were a country. The west created a colony to project power in the middle east because they had no other allies there. Israel is a country in a region called Palestine. Palestinians never formed a government that resembled something the west could do business with

  In colonialism, the colony has superior technology. The middle east just industrialized, how the hell could Palestinians have been anything but natives the last few thousand years

  Myth #4: The atrocities committed by Hamas (and over one thousand Palestinian civilians) on October 7th were a legitimate response to oppression.

  Israel left Gaza in 2005—forcibly removing thousands of its own citizens—and billions of dollars in international aid have since been spent there. So the “oppression” of the Palestinians in Gaza—by Israel—is at least debatable.

  This is so fucking stupid I’m just going to leave this here. “Oppression” lmao, why the air quotes? Being born in a ghetto doesn’t count as being oppressed?

  Myth #5: The two sides in this conflict are equally civilized, equally entitled to respect, and equally worth protecting.

  I actually agree with this. You can’t compare violence between two groups when one group (Israel) is occupying the other (Palestine). The violence from Palestinians against Israel is like violence from black people to the police. It’s not good, but it’s not the same. One group is oppressed and radicalized from that, the other group is systematically oppressing the other

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  • Muehe@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Myth #1: Israel is guilty of “genocide” in Gaza.

    The term “genocide” has a clear meaning—it’s the destruction or attempted destruction of a whole people.

    Yes , 95% of people starving in the world were in Gaza when Israel chose to withhold aid to them. That is the attempted destruction of a whole people

    Not sure why you are debating semantics here, as that statement is just straight up wrong, which can be easily confirmed by taking a single look at article 2 of the Genocide Convention (emphasis mine):

    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such

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    • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Speaking of the genocide convention, let’s see what experts on the subject are saying about it:

      ICJ Ruling archived here

      Experts on Genocide at US Court on the issue

      800+ Legal Scholars on International Law and Genocide on whether it amounts to genocide

      5 more experts on the subject

      Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide

      GDF has a pretty good video on it imo

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• Keeponstalin@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Here are 10 Myths of Israel (archived) by Ilan Pappe

  1. Palestine was an empty land

  2. The Jews were a people without a land

  3. Zionism is Judaism

  4. Zionism is not colonialism

  5. The Palestinians voluntarily left their homeland in 1948

  6. The June 1967 War was a war of “no choice”.

  7. Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East

  8. The Oslo Mythologies

  9. The Gaza Mythologies

  10. The Two-State Solution is the only way forward

  This article, Examining the 10 Myths of Israel is a shorter version of the main points

  The book is too detailed to summarize each chapter on a comment, but it’s not too difficult to find independent sources to verify each of them

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