Comment on How did China get so good at chips and AI? Congressional investigation blames American venture capitalists

• hark@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Stealing is how you catch up. Imaginary property laws were also lax in the US as it was growing. By the way, the “they just steal, they have no creativity” line was the same old bullshit trotted out against Japan while Japan was outcompeting us. Unfortunately for Japan, they’re a US ally and were bullied into adopting a financially-engineered ticking time bomb that exploded and left them with multiple lost decades.

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  • filister@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sorry but the patent system you have in the US is absolute bullshit that benefits very little and is prone to abuse by patent trolls.

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  • Malek061@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Japan literally took American ideas and make them work. Japan brought over American innovators who were stifled at GM and Ford. They put in the production that killed Detroit.

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• Hacksaw@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Absolute garbage comment. Our entire LIVES and upbringing is assimilation of thoughts and ideas. We literally have sayings like “imitation is the most sincere form of flattery”.

  Capitalism comes in and decides that ideas, in and of themselves, need to be monetized and commodified. We create parents and trademarks and copyrights, all flying in the face of millennia of human cultural evolution. Using this, we decide that copying is stealing. Absolute insanity. Stealing is wrong because it DEPRIVES someone of the use of their property. Copying doesn’t deprive anyone from shit!

  We have a system where if someone finds a good way of doing something, but doesn’t play nice with others, we DEMAND other people to use INFERIOR ways of doing that thing so we don’t make the original inventor mad. This might, maybe, make sense with people, but corporations own just about every useful patent we’ve ever made, corporations aren’t people, we don’t owe them shit. ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! IDEAS ARE NOT PROPERTY! IMITATION ISN’T STEALING! How did we even get here?

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  • Malek061@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The problem is these new ideas cost time, money, manpower to create. Why would any person spend the time and energy to make something new only for someone to take your work?

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    • HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because maybe it might be nice to contribute to the betterment of humanity as a whole?

      You sound like if you invented a cure for cancer, you’d jack up the price immediately.

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• HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh yeah the famously uncreative and uninventive chinese culture. They’ve never done anything, I’m sure.

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• filister@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Have you seen the last couple of years who your most brilliant minds are? Hint most of them are either Asians or descendants of Asian parents.

  Like it or not, but there are a lot of really smart and tech guru people in China and Asia who are much smarter than Europeans and/or white Americans. Coming from a European.

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