Comment on I've noticed that lemmy as a whole is much more leftist than reddit (outside of political servers of course)

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• EhList@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think that’s an oversimplification as there is an outright fascist in Hungary, a borderline fascist in Italy and a growing in power far right in a lot of Europe. In addition the USA is 2 years away from giving up democracy completely.

  If you think the West as a whole is trending progressive you aren’t paying attention

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  • Skavargen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Still, don’t conservative parties in the EU still believe in things like climate change, heathcare, workers rights, etc?

    Aren’t they more isolationist (pro Russian), against immigration (hard to blame them there), and anti checks and balances (fuck that)?

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    • EhList@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That really depends on the nation. At this moment some are more pro-democracy than others. The ones that are trending towards fascism are less likely to support workers rights

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• Nacktmull@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think everything West is leftish at the moment.

  Just no my dude, that is not the case at all. In most western nations the right has been getting stronger and more powerful for years now, just think of Trump getting elected as president of the USA or of the right wing governments that have been ruling in Italy for many years now. In Germany the right wing AfD party has the best polls since they were founded. The west is clearly drifting more and more to the right and has been for many years now. Russia has been supporting and amplifying that trend by financing right wing groups and by spreading propaganda and conspiracy theories. How anyone could get the idea the west would be leftist when considering what has been going on in the world during the last years completely evades me.

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• okamiueru@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Russia (I assume this is what you mean) didn’t go “alt right”. They likely spend a lot of resources encouraging right wing politics in all countries they benefit from weakening the stability of. It’s no surprise they had a hand in helping Trump, brexit, Bolsonaro, NRA. Just look at who they supported in a massive disinformation campaign in Poland, a leader of the ultra-nationalist, neo-fascist “All-Polish Youth”.

  Also, inb4 any whataboutuism about US meddling in the world, start your own thread about that, will you? I’ll probably agree with it.

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• JTode@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve resisted right up until this moment embracing this viewpoint, but I think we really have reached a point where every one of the old labels has lost all utility. We’re just sort of passing around paper mache cargo cult effigies of things our grandparents took for granted and didn’t bother to preserve for us.

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• Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not really

  Maybe the Anglos are becoming leftish, but continental Europe is becoming rightish instead

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  • VioletteRei@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The british governement are doing more and more anti-immigration and anti-LGBT+ laws, so they also becoming rightish

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    • Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What laws exactly? I’m not informed of the current situation of the UK apart from a lot of PMs in a few months

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• 30mag@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The Soviet Union went alt right

  You mean Russia?

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