Comment on Poignant post on the state of things

• bartolomeo@suppo.fi ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  In those situations what do the workers that have no interest in owning the means of production do? Like, if you just want to do your job and go home, is there still room for you under that system? Or does it require active participation from every worker?

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  • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you think Capitalist owners can’t just do their job and go home? Do you even think Capitalist Owners work?

    If Workers share ownership, they can hold electoral councils, elect a manager, or do any other form of decision making without requiring constant input.

    Do you actively participate in every company you own in your S&P 500 ETF?

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    • bartolomeo@suppo.fi ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ooooooookaaaaayyyyy. You are more interested in feeling attacked and defending your ego than discussing praxis. I’m not interested in that.

      Also lmao thinking I own stock.

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      • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No, I’m not. I was genuinely asking questions here, I was not intending on being confrontational. I’m not even who you originally replied to.

        Even if you personally don’t own stock, do you imagine everyone who owns a share of VOO makes decisions for every company in the S&P 500? That’s my point, ownership isn’t necessarily management, just entitlement to control and profit.

        If Workers collectively own a factory, they may choose to vote on how to produce, or vote on a manager. The point is leaving it to the Workers to decide, rather than a dictatorial owner, ie a Capitalist.

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  • TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They get a part of the company’s gains regardless because they are workers.

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    • bartolomeo@suppo.fi ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Simple. That sounds really good.

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