Comment on Police call Pride protesters 'an ugly rabble'
wscholermann@aussie.zone 9 months agoI think you are missing the point. If the institution has a policy of being anti lgbt and it was systemic then I might have some sympathy for your argument, but it’s not at that level. And let’s face it if it was really that bad cops wouldn’t want march anyway.
Vicpol has over 20,000 employees and it is absolutely ridiculous to stop police marching outright because of the actions of a few.
And I stand by my point that it doesn’t justify attacking innocent individuals, not now, not ever, in uniform or otherwise. If you think that’s ok I can’t help you.
And as for history lots of bad things happened in history. The answer is not to bring it into the present with more toxic and hostile behavior from other side.
Taleya@aussie.zone 9 months ago
so uh, how come the queer community has to be the bigger guy here and not the cops?
'cos you keep going “oh sins of the father” “history history history” like it’s before anyone was born while I’m also talking about events that happened this decade.
wscholermann@aussie.zone 9 months ago
I’ve already addressed your point. It’s immoral to punish one group of people for someone else’s actions.
It’s not official policy of police to target lgbt, police management aren’t condoning dodgy behavior and yes it’s not easy to stamp out problem police. It’s an ongoing process and always will be. Ergo it’s silly to ban police from the march and sickening to see attacks on innocent police for something someone else did. Black and white thinking and not seeing someone’s humanity is problematic.
Our justice system is based on punishment against individuals and not collectives. If you like the idea of collective punishment there are many other countries you can move to where that kind of thing is acceptable.
This is unfortunately another form of tribalism and us versus them mentality where’s really no need for it. The entire police force are not out to get LGBT in this country.
It is entirely possible to recognize the small pockets of problem police whilst at the same time celebrating and supporting those police doing good work. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
Taleya@aussie.zone 9 months ago
You’re still not getting it.
No one is punishing a “group of people”. This has been pointed out to you repeatedly. People have issues with the institution.
Cops aren’t a fucking demographic. It’s a job.
wscholermann@aussie.zone 9 months ago
What do you think makes up an institution ? It’s a grouping of people…a collection of individuals. So it seems you’re not getting it.
So yes, it’s still punishing individuals for what other individuals within an institution does.
You seem to be supportive of these paint attacks. That’s worrying because one day it’s paint, what else is next? Physical violence?