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• haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Very good ideas! Any idea if something like this already exists? If not, shall we work on something? I have some experience in python if that helps.

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  • blahsay@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks but not sure what’s currently implemented or even what the code base is written in 😅.

    I might have a poke around and see if there’s any low hanging fruit.

    Call me crazy but with a 5b ipo about to start I’d be shocked if reddit wasn’t paying some troll farms to brigade the fediverse and it’d be a shame if spez wins

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    • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thats an interesting idea! Thank you very much for mentioning it!

      We can absolutely write a bot in python and could try to use it like that. I already made a discord bot so this shouldn’t be brutally hard.

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      • blahsay@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Awesome 👍 I’m more c#/Java, angular if there’s anything I can contribute.

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  • rimu@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    PieFed is an open source lemmy alternative (written in Python) that makes good use of karma/reputation, as shown in this video:

    https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/system/media_attachments/files/111/648/646/494/228/522/original/02cb1b5182a1f9b6.mp4

    Try the demo site at https://piefed.social and check out https://join.piefed.social. Also see https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta for recent feature announcements.

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    • Blaze@discuss.online ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thank you very much for sharing, I’ll keep an eye on it.

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    • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I‘m not searching for another thing to start but a way to make the current thing work. But thanks.

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      • Blaze@discuss.online ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        To be fair, Piefed uses Lemmy communities and comments, it’s almost just another interface.

        The reputation is indeed interesting, example in this thread with warnings “low reputation, beware!”: piefed.social/post/27070#post_replies

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You can check if text is ai/llm generated and an automated api check before posting and immediate ban if found

  If this LLM-detection function ever results in false positives, this system will be banning innocent people.

  Also there are many, many cases where a person openly displays results from an LLM, without it being in any way antisocial.

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  • blahsay@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The odds of someone coming up with the same sentence as an llm within common sense bounds of time far exceed winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning.

    Your second point is straight up nonsense. This platform is for humans to interact. The use of bots is inherently deceptive.

    Fascinating to have someone argue for them. I think the backend logs will be pretty illuminating.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know what a person “coming up with the same sentence as an llm” would have anything to do with this unless the LLM detection is based on direct string comparison.

      The use of bots is inherently deceptive

      Nope. I can say:

      Here’s what GPT-4 generated when I gave it that prompt: “[some LLM output that would get them banned by the machine we’re proposing to build]”

      That is not deceptive. But it would be detected by this system and result in them being banned. Because you guys are gung-ho to build a powerful head-cracking machine and didn’t think of an obvious edge case.

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      • blahsay@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re wrong and don’t have the technical knowledge to understand why and I can’t be asked explaining it.

        Relax, it won’t affect that case.

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