That’s the important bit. The creators of Lemmy needed to be hard leftist to keep it from being taken over by right wingers before it could become popular. Now it’s big enough that the community isn’t as leftist as the creators, but will still reject turning into another voat.
Knusper@feddit.de 11 months ago
There’s been tons of right-leaning Reddit alternatives before, but they always quickly devolved into Nazi spaces.
Lemmy was the first one that I’m aware of, which told Nazis to fuck off right from the beginning.
BitSound@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Cheems@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Unfettered echo chamber of right wing ideals will always devolve into fascist authoritarian and nazism
Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Surprise surprise, echo chambers devolve into more extreme versions of the original views
That’s literally just how echo works
Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m sorry but what is considered to be “Nazi” in this platform? I’ve seen even socialists being called Nazis
Knusper@feddit.de 11 months ago
I do not speak for this platform, but what I mean with Nazis here, are people who support the exclusion, inhumane treatment or exploitation of arbitrary groups of people, generally for the Nazi’s (perceived) benefit and in spite of basic morals.
Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And what would exclusion, inhumane treatment and exploitation mean? It’s key to clearly define the concepts before applying the label to someone, as if they stay undefined everyone can have the label applied
Knusper@feddit.de 11 months ago
Right, so another policy from the early days of Lemmy that I thought was quite vital: No endless discussions on what precisely constitutes Nazi behaviour.
It’s truly not hard to not be a Nazi. And if someone is even roughly in the ballpark of being a Nazi, the community as a whole just doesn’t care to have that person’s input here.
Which is a roundabout way of saying that I do not think, it’s relevant to clearly define these terms.
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I’ve never had a productive conversation that started with “please define what counts as a Nazi for me”.
sab@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No argument there. But given that they mostly popup in the context of “I think all nazis…”-circlejerks, that’s kinda to be expected.
rob64@startrek.website 11 months ago
The new Lemmy anthem?
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
They just have their own instance and are defederated by some but not all, which is the best solution as it means they stick to their part of the fediverse instead of hijacking subs that weren’t right leaning in the first place.
JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com 11 months ago
Yeah, right-wingers flock to “safe-spaces” as much as the far-left does. Lemmy doesn’t have the tools to make a single community isolated like they could on Reddit, so they have to go to their own instances and end up defederated.
The main differences between left-wing and right-wing communities is that the right-wing ones quickly deteriorate towards a lot of hate related things. This leads them to being isolated from the rest. The left wingers are mostly tolerable and are just over zealous in preaching things like forcing everyone to use pronouns, lmao.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
And everybody wins!
Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Gotta act like we’re in kindergarten for them 🤷