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dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Yeah, they can fuck off. When their opening salvo was threats and legal bluster, I don’t see why anyone should trust an alleged olive branch now. The right thing to do was not to send this email second.

I have to work with Haier in my business now as well ever since they bought GE. They’re a shitty company that goes back on their word constantly (at least within the B2B space), and nobody should be giving them one thin dime.

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kilgore_trout@feddit.it ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Legal threats come from lawyers, while this email comes from an engineer.

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- huginn@feddit.it ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  … Which makes it even less credible legally.
  
  Unless you’re getting C-suite level emails saying they’re not going to do it, don’t trust them.
  
  And even then you should be ready to sue.
  
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- lemming741@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But a company is a sum of these (and other) people. In this case, it’s a draw at best, not a win.
  
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- BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  So?
  
  They both represent the company. The company came on strong all ban-hammery, the news flashed around, his repo got forked over a thousand times in a matter of hours.
  
  Haier found themselves on the defensive suddenly, so they got one of their engineers to play nice.
  
  They now know they have 300k users who are pissed at them. People are choosing other products over this already.
  
  Fuck them. With a pineapple. Corporations aren’t people, I owe them no consideration, no courtesy, especially when they act like this.
  
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- Bazoogle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Generally, an engineer wants their product to work well and work efficiently. They put effort into a product, and it feels good to see people benefit from that work. The ones making the decisions have money on their mind. If a FOSS version of their paid platform costs them too much money, they will shut it down. Not because it was the engineers decision, but because the one’s making the decision likely don’t even know what github is and just know it’s taking away that sweet subscription money.
  
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Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Respectfully, I disagree. There is something to be gained here for the FOSS community.

This backtrack sends the message out, discouraging other companies with legal departments from trying the same trick else they risk sales. If a positive resolution comes out of this (A. Andre’s project becomes officially supported by Haier with more features whilst being more efficient with API calls, or B. Haier develops a local API option) then it shows other companies there is value in working together with the FOSS community rather than viewing them as an adversary or as competition to be eliminated.

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- BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Nah, this is Haier trying to save face. They saw how the story went, that the repo was forked a thousand times in a few hours. They know their engineering team can’t win, long term, against dedicated, pissed off geeks.
  
  Would they play nice with you if the tables were reversed? No.
  
  They already played the legal card, engaging with them at this point would be extremely naive.
  
  Fuck them. Now is the time to pummel them even harder. Making them eat their words is what will send a message to the rest of the jackasses designing garbage and tracking us relentlessly for access to what should be trivial to engineer features.
  
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