Comment on Alec Baldwin charged for shooting;

• Maeve@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tbh, my first reaction was that it wasn’t fair; then I read more details as they were reported and had a moment of clarity. People get comfortable and mess up, it happens. This time, it cost someone their life.

  For those worried about Alec, he has plenty of money. His ego and wallet will take a hit, but he’s not going to prison. He may or not be in a mental prison, but he can afford quality therapy, so if he is and chooses to stay there, that’s on him.

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  • RandomStickman@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I went on exactly the same path as you and I only read about it when I came across the articles casually browsing, I didn't actively seek them out.

    There are people that knew more and are still defending him, which is wild.

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    • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hear you. He can still be a decent person who made a serious mistake due to gross negligence. I’m not saying he is out isn’t decent; I like s lot of past things he said, and I hope this was a wake up call for all of us: If we’re coasting too long on good reputation/intention/feelings, we’re going to get hard reminders to actually continue working to be better than we were, yesterday.

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      • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m basing everything on the Wikipedia article and the two years old Legal Eagle video, but it seems it wasn’t his negligence, but rather the armorer’s and the assistant producer’s.

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  • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Literally no one is worried about him as a driving force bud, if you think thats the concern or topic of discussion you should probably sit it out

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    • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Then why are people whinging about poor Alex refusing to take his rightful responsibility, like adults and poor people are expected to do?

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      • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Because its not actually clear who is guilty of the death, the producer who hired an incompetent firearm safety coordinator or the incompetent firearm safety coordinator.

        Fucking obviously, you child.

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• nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Perhaps because Baldwin, as far as we know, did everything correctly? He had the armorer prepare the gun and assistant producer check it. The armorer failed to do it correctly and the assistant producer failed at their part of the job. They are guilty of the accident, because they did not follow the procedure required, not the person who gave them the task

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  • RandomStickman@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No one is absolving responsibility from the armourer.

    But if I'm the boss of a warehouse, never enforce any OSHA safety standards against my staff, and one of them just signed off that they inspected the forklift that day without actually doing so, and I drove the forklift and killed someone because of the forklift's malfunction, I am, as the boss, partly responsible for the incident.

    To say otherwise is flying against rules and regulations written in blood, as we can clearly see.

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    • nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How does this even apply to the situation?

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      • RandomStickman@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Baldwin is one of the producer (boss), who did not enforce any safety standards (allowed crews to bring live ammo to the set, allowed armourer to be subpar), and ended up with one of his staff dead.

        If you don't know how my analogy applies to the situation you clearly don't know enough about it to form an informed opinion.

        ALL workplace safety standards should be the responsibility of the boss in some capacity. That's how safety standards are maintained. If the boss is allowed to shrug it off saying "it's not my fault the staff is an idiot" that's how we end up with new hires dying on the line. If you can't understand that I could only hope you aren't in charge of anyone's safety.

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