Oof, good point.
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VizualWarrior@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Do individuals that have transitioned from a gender other than the one they were born into really identify as “trans” or is that what society has classifed them as? I think ideally they would all be accepted and viewed as their preferred gender without the trans qualifier attached to them.
ivanafterall@kbin.social 8 months ago
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
It’s not. It’s based on a broad generalisation that implies all trans folk want to blend in and be invisible. We don’t all want that
Newtra@pawb.social 8 months ago
There’s a weird divide between self-determined identity and external classifications. Often, a culture forms around the label and the external label stops being relevant because the term has more social/cultural implications than practical implications. Some people internalize the label as that’s how they wish to steer their future interactions, and others ignore the label and move on with their lives.
You can watch all of Star Trek, and some parts of society will label you a Trekkie if they find out, but it’s up to you whether you choose to identify as a Trekkie, or just go about your life not making a big deal about it.
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Do individuals that have transitioned from a gender other than the one they were born into really identify as “trans”
I do. Loudly proudly and openly.
MagosInformaticus@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
If I describe someone as a “tall man” or “clever man”, do those qualifiers/subcategorizations call into question whether he is a “man”?
If they don’t, I’m genuinely interested in hearing what distinction you apparently see between those two and saying he is a “trans man”.
VizualWarrior@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Hmmm well I would think of those more as descriptors, which I suppose the label “trans” is, but are there any people that would prefer to be seen as their chosen gender without the need of the additional label? I have a friend that has transitioned from female to male and I don’t think of them as a trans man. He’s a man and has always been a man to me.
MagosInformaticus@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Interesting. I guess for me the “trans” bit just isn’t as strongly coupled to the person - that it’s natural to use “man” for such a person in general, but there are contexts like healthcare and the politics of healthcare that make the subcategory someone falls into relevant.