Comment on Ubisoft Exec Says Gamers Need to Get 'Comfortable' Not Owning Their Games for Subscriptions to Take Off

• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “A lot”

  Yes, a lot.

  Can you play the games by purchasing them and then not having to ever download them using Steam?

  Yes.

  The only DRM free games are physical copies

  No. Evidently you don’t know what Digital Rights Management is.

  If you can run it with no launcher, no software verifying purchase, you can back it up, copy it, distribute it, etc, then it’s not DRM.

  otherwise you rely on a specific service to be able to play, even if it’s only once (like with GOG), it’s a form of DRM.

  Wait, what? You think buying a DRM-free game from a storefront is a form of DRM?

  Ok then, let’s use that logic. Buying a physical game from a shop is therefore also DRM, because you have to buy the game from them.

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Proportionally it doesn’t look too great

    pcgamingwiki.com/…/List_of_DRM-free_games_on_Stea…

    `>Can you play the games by purchasing them and then not having to ever download them using Steam?

    Yes.`

    Tell me how do you but a game on Steam and play it without downloading it from their servers? 🤔

    Wait, *what?* You think buying a DRM-free game from a storefront is a form of DRM?

    It is, you depend on a digital storefront to have a proof of ownership and to download the game in the first place.

    Buying a physical game from a shop is therefore also DRM

    What’s digital about physical copies?

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    • Euphoma@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That list doesn’t have literally every DRM free game, almost every VR game I have doesn’t have DRM and they are not on the list.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tell me how do you but a game on Steam and play it without downloading it from their servers? 🤔

      Downloading a DRM-free game from a web store is not DRM no matter how much you repeat that it is.

      It is, you depend on a digital storefront to have a proof of ownership and to download the game in the first place.

      It isn’t. The files can be copied and distributed any way you like. Same goes for GOG.

      What’s digital about physical copies?

      It’s still digital. It contains digital data… come on, you can’t seriously be unaware of this. Is a digital camera not a digital because it stores the data on an SD card?

      Physical media has DRM too. CDs, DVDs, BluRays, game cartridges all have DRM.

      Your argument that buying something means it’s DRM is nonsense. Buying something from a physical shop and buying something online isn’t particularly different. They’re either both DRM or neither are.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Which is the only way you can own and play a game without an internet connection?

        That’s the only true DRM free and true ownership experience.

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