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Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Sort of. The nanometer number is mostly just marketing, and Intels “4nm” is really somewhere between TSMCs 5nm and 7nm as far as density goes. They’re still a ways behind, which is part of the reason their chips are so inefficient comparatively

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Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You are ware that the nm value used for samsungs and tsmcs process is also marketing right?

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- ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I know it’s more complicated than just node size, but you’re making it sound like intel cpus are roughly the same transistor density as current AMD cpus, so why is amd that much more efficient?
  
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  - Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Phoenix is on 4nm, Intel 4 is more comparable to 5nm, so its definitely not what ive been saying remotely when ive explicitly said that Intel 4 is comparable to tsmc N5 node.
    
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stuner@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Do you have a source for that? According to WikiChip Fuse, Intel 4 is comparable to TSMC N3 in density and offers better performance: fuse.wikichip.org/news/6720/…/4/

On paper, those PPA characteristics positions the company’s new Intel 4 process at performance levels better than TSMC N3 and Samsung 3GAE. On the density front, Intel 4 appears highly competitive against N3 high-performance libraries.

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